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Re: [TowerTalk] Prosistel PST61 and M2 20M5

To: "'Adrian Rees'" <rees.a@btconnect.com>, <john@kk9a.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Prosistel PST61 and M2 20M5
From: "John Langdon" <jlangdon@outer.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:03:14 -0500
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Prosistel controller no, Green Heron yes. You can set the minimum and
maximum motor speed from 10% to 100% and the time of the ramp between the
two speeds in seconds, and it works both on starting and stopping motion.
This works both with the 'point and shoot' knob and the controller and with
external software control like the LOGic logging program, for instance.  The
rotor and worm gear have lots of inertia and it would take a lot of wind to
move them but it is possible. But if the pin is broken you will get no
movement at all when you activate the motor.

Unless you have a very long and/or small gauge cable run that drops the
voltage below what the motor needs to work, you should be able to handle the
calibration issues using the setup of the Green Heron.

73 John N5CQ


-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Rees [mailto:rees.a@btconnect.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 8:08 AM
To: John Langdon; john@kk9a.com; towertalk@contesting.com
Cc: cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Prosistel PST61 and M2 20M5


>>Quote: Try putting the RT-21 in 'debug' mode to see if you can move 
>>the antenna
with the CW or CCW buttons then. If not, you may have lost the shear pin
inside the rotor that works like a 'mechanical fuse'.

This is very interesting. 

I have a PST71D turning an Optibeam OB16-3 .For the last few months the only
way I can turn the rotator succesfully, is by using the CW / CCW keys. If I
use the little knob to set the direction and then wait for the rotator to
turn, it usually starts OK, and then stops at no particular point through
the turn. Carrying on the turn with the CW/CCW keys works OK. 
So I guessed it was to do with cable length / sensor measuring the
resistance being out  range of  a pre-set value.
In my case this being due to the distance from the shack to the rotator of
around 450 feet, with 5 Core cable (each core 7/22) run out.
 
>From what you mention the Speed & Ramp settings can be altered by the 
>controller and if so,
would indicate that the user could alter the settings. Therefore I could fix
the problem I have.

Is this a Grenn Heron Controller  thing only or can the original PST
Controller be altered also ?

By the way are there any other symptoms of this shear pin failing ?  
For instance the antenna moving around, say 10 - 20 degrees in the wind? 

Cheers

Adrian
MW1LCR / GW9X
________________________________________
From: TowerTalk [towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] on behalf of John Langdon
[jlangdon@outer.net]
Sent: 18 October 2012 12:09
To: john@kk9a.com; towertalk@contesting.com
Cc: cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Prosistel PST61 and M2 20M5

Is your unit AC or DC motor? What motor voltage? How long is your cable run?
Have you calculated or measured the working voltage across the motor coil?

Try putting the RT-21 in 'debug' mode to see if you can move the antenna
with the CW or CCW buttons then. If not, you may have lost the shear pin
inside the rotor that works like a 'mechanical fuse'.

I now use minimum speed 4, max speed 8, and a 4 second ramp on a PST71.
Previously using a 3/9/1 setup, I lost a pin.

73 John N5CQ

-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
john@kk9a.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:22 AM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Cc: cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Prosistel PST61 and M2 20M5

Try increasing the minimum speed and increasing the timeout setting.

John KK9A

To:      <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Prosistel PST61 and M2 20M5
From:    "Jorge Diez - CX6VM" <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
Date:    Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:24:52 -0200

I have a PST61 from Prosistel to move a 20M5 monobander and a XM510 on the
same mast.

When windy, maybe 50 mi/hr, the rotor stop turning. Green Heron RT21 say NO
MOTION and stopped

Is this rotor small for this antennas?

73,

Jorge

CX6VM/CW5W


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