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Re: [TowerTalk] HI-Z antennas

To: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HI-Z antennas
From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@att.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:40:52 -0500
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It might be of benefit to Lee if this conversation were held in private 
emails or on the phone. You never know who is a member of this and other 
discussion groups. And who may be lurking here looking for legal ways to 
make someone more miserable than they already are.

Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com
60 Meters www.60metersonline.net
NOBSKA www.nobska.net
Cape Cod Instruments www.gnm-inc.com

"Problems cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created 
them." - Albert Einstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HI-Z antennas


> On 2/7/12 8:03 AM, john@kk9a.com wrote:
>> Perhaps this is why the antennas are not for sale? 
>> http://www.radio-sport.net/ham_lawsuit2011.htm
>>
>> John KK9A
>
>
> Interesting..
>
> I'm not sure that the quote in the article has a basis in law.
> ""An individual is free to make, for his own use, a thing which is
> patented by a company without fear of being sued by the patent holder,"
> said Heil."
>
> I think it is more a practicality: it's not worth it for a patent holder
> to go after someone duplicating the invention for their own exclusive,
> non-remunerative use. And failure to pursue such infringers generally
> won't allow someone later to raise a defense of laches (i.e. unlike
> copyright, patent holders have to pursue all infringers or they lose the
> protection).  However, if someone patented something, and then someone
> else published an article encouraging infringement on a largeish scale,
> the patent holder would have to do something.  Say someone wrote a QEX
> article "Build this antenna" and printed the figures from the patent
> (but hadn't actually built it).
>
> I think there is law that allows one to practice an invention in order
> to develop a new invention that uses it, in some circumstances.  (the
> "inventor in the garage" idea)
>
> But one has to be careful.  There are plenty of lawsuits about single
> uses of biotech patents (gene sequences) in someone's lab where they are
> developing something else.  That is, they weren't making an infringing
> product for sale, just using it in a process.
>
> In any case, just like for copyright, there's no "non-profit use" or
> "single use" exception in patent law.  In fact, there's nothing
> equivalent to "fair use" for patents.  I'm pretty sure that a patent
> holder can prevent all and sundry from practising the patent, purely on
> a whim, if they so desire. (with the possible, use in another invention
> exception above)
>
>
>
>>
>> To:<towertalk@contesting.com>
>> Subject:  [TowerTalk] HI-Z antennas
>> From:  "Jorge Diez - CX6VM"<cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
>> Date:  Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:12:50 -0200
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you know about HI-Z antennas? They told me they are not selling this
>> antennas anymore. I was looking for the 4 element array
>> http://www.hizantennas.com/controller_4_elements.htm
>>
>>
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