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Re: [TowerTalk] Arrival Angle Application

To: Steve Jones <n6sj@earthlink.net>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Arrival Angle Application
From: David Gilbert via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: David Gilbert <ab7echo@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2026 12:19:39 -0700
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Hi, Steve.

Yes, you need two antennas ... one for each receiver.  And the two antennas need to be a configuration that can geometrically capture the arrival angle, and they need to be balanced with respect to ground.  Otherwise the ground effects will be different for each antenna and skew the phase measurement.

I'm confused by your second question, though.  The only purpose of the entire video was to explain how to use the audio output of the K to measure and plot the elevation angle of an incoming signal.  I must have done a poor job of that.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 4/10/2026 11:26 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
Dave,
Questions:
Do you need a separate antenna on each of the phase-locked receivers?
My K3 can do diversity reception with two antennas.  Is there a way to use the 
K3's audio to measure the arrival angle?
73,
Steve
N6SJ



-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of David Gilbert 
via TowerTalk
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2026 12:08 AM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Arrival Angle Application


Not too long ago I mentioned that I was working on a application that would 
hopefully measure and display the arrival angle of an RF signal by feeding the 
audio from two phase locked receivers into the sound card of a computer and 
doing the processing on a browser web page.  The application is now functional 
and I have created a YouTube video describing what I tried to do, how the 
application works, and to what degree I was successful.  At 50 minutes it's 
pretty long so if you decide to watch it you might want to click on the YouTube 
settings icon at the lower right to speed it up.  My production skills are 
limited so please take that into account.

The YouTube video is here:

https://youtu.be/MxRaYSRMPE4

The actual application is here:

http://www.ab7e.com/ArrivalAngle.html

You can run the app directly from my web page but you can also just download it 
(right-click, save page as .html) and run it locally on your own computer.  
It's totally free and comes with no guarantees of literally anything.

I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions, and I'll try to answer questions.

73,
Dave   AB7E

p.s.  The application was written by OpenAI's Codex coding agent.  I created 
the layout and the prompts that specified how it should work, and I did a lot 
of refining, but I didn't write a single byte of the actual code.  We're in a 
new era of custom software for almost any use no matter how limited the 
audience may be for it.

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