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RE: [TowerTalk] STACKING

To: N2TK@arrl.net, 'Pete Smith' <n4zr@contesting.com>,'RICHARD BOYD' <ke3q@msn.com>, towertalk@contesting.com,'Jose Castillo' <N4BAA@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] STACKING
From: Dan Bookwalter <n8dcj@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: N8DCJ@YAHOO.COM
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:29:52 -0700 (PDT)
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Ya Know 

there is a very simple solution to this stacking stuff
and big antenna problems....

move your station to the caribbean :-)

all you need is a 70ft tower a good multiband yagi and
a few wires....

i can always dream i guess....

Dan N8DCJ

--- N2TK <tony.kaz@verizon.net> wrote:

> Pete,
> The MAG240N and EF240S seem to be two different type
> antennas. The "N"
> series has the linear loading moved out away from
> the boom.
> 
> N2TK, Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf
> Of Pete Smith
> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 5:38 PM
> To: RICHARD BOYD; towertalk@contesting.com; Jose
> Castillo
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] STACKING
> 
> The 240 part of the F12 antenna is, I believe, the
> same as an EF-240S.  At
> 6 foot spacing from my top tribander, I had to turn
> my EF-240S 90 degrees
> to prevent significantly affecting the SWR of my F12
> tribander on
> 15.  Advice from Force 12 was at least 12 feet
> spacing, but each unique
> combination of antennas brings its own set of
> problems.
> 
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> 
> At 02:53 PM 8/7/2004, RICHARD BOYD wrote:
> 
> >As I often do, quoting others more expert than
> myself, the main issue seems
> >to be detuning of the 15M yagi by the 40M yagi.  I
> asked W3LPL how far a 15
> >and a 40 should be apart.  He thought 30' would be
> good.
> >
> >Most of us would not be able to get that much
> distance and still have them
> >both rotating on a mast at the top.  One of them
> would either have to be
> >sidemounted lower down the tower, or you have to
> accept the potential for
> >degradation of performance by having them closer.
> >
> >In the real world, many people put their tribander
> and 2-el 40 within a few
> >feet of each other and are satisfied with the
> performance.  Obviously, more
> >is better.  While it's a different situation,
> different bands, I have 20
> and
> >15 yagis 8' apart and they've always worked well. 
> It's the
> >interaction/degradation problem that causes people
> to pair 40/10 and 20/15
> >on two towers -- alternatively, 40/20 and 15/10. 
> But not 40/15 together.
> >With a tribander for 20/15/10 that's not the
> situation you have.  15 is the
> >one that suffers, typically.
> >
> >Probably 6-8-10' separation between the tribander
> and 40 is worth a try and
> >see if it works satisfactorily for you.  The
> resonant point and/or pattern
> >of the 15 may change.
> >
> >You might try putting up the tribander first and do
> good performance plots
> >across each of the three bands.  Then put up the 40
> at whatever separation
> >you can achieve and repeat the plots to see what
> effects you can observe.
> >
> >73 - Rich, KE3Q
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jose Castillo" <N4BAA@cox.net>
> >To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 7:54 PM
> >Subject: [TowerTalk] STACKING
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > I am planning on purchasing a SteppIR 4 element
> yagi.
> > > I also have a Force 12 240/230 (2 ele on 40 and
> 30 meters)
> > >
> > > How high above the SteppIR would be adequate?
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Jose - N4BAA and YI9BAA
> > >
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