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Re: [TowerTalk] Guy Cable

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guy Cable
From: "W3YY - Bob" <w3yy@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:16:56 -0000
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Well, I have to confess that I don't know exactly what the term "wire rope"
means, but I successfully used 7x19 galvanized aircraft control cable (both
3/16" and 1/4") for guys for 30 years.  This makes wonderful guy cables
without any stretch that I've noted.  If straight 19-stand wire rope is
different OK, but then it shouldn't be confused with aircraft control cable.

I terminate this with either Nicopress fittings or Crosby Clips.  It is so
much more flexible and easier to use than the standard 7-strand EHS. 

My two cents worth.

73, Bob - W3YY

-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Eric Scace K3NA
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:42 AM
To: Larry Comden
Cc: TowerTalk
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guy Cable

   Do not use 19 strand wire rope.  It is designed for a different
application (runs around pulleys, etc), and comes in many different designs
(Warrington vs Seale cross-sections, right regular, right lang, etc.).  All
of them have particular advantages and disadvantages for specific
applications.  For OUR application (tower guy wire), 19-strand wire rope is
too stretchy.

   Seven strand wire rope contains one straight WSC (wire strand core) and
six surrounding strands, and all strands are the SAME diameter.  
THIS is what you want for tower guys.  It has much lower stretch than other
wire rope designs (except solid rod).

   You want right lay (when viewed from above, the strands rotate to the
right as they recede away from the observer), the most common form.  If you
use Grips, you must use the correct version of Grips for the lay of the guy.

   Doesn't McMaster have galvanized EHS seven strand cable or cable clips?

-- Eric

on 07 Mar 13 Tue 17:37 Larry Comden said the following:
> TT'ers:
>
> I'm going to replace the guy wires on my Rohn 25 tower this spring as part
of a general overhaul. Present cable is 3/16  1X7 wire rope (probably EHS
but after 30 years who remembers?). No insulators were used in the original
installation. That'll be corrected.
>
> Texas Towers sells 3/16 wire rope for $39/100' (probably 1X7 with 3990 lbs
breaking strength). McMaster-Carr sells 3/18 1X19 (4700 lbs) for $38/100.
> Both sources are galvanized. Price obviously isn't the deciding factor.
>
> Question: Is the 19 strand stuff easier/harder to work with? Any problems
with weathering, etc? Is there a "mismatch" when using the 1X19 with the
preformed Big Grips?
>
> Question: McMaster also has Stainless saddle clamps cheaper than the galv
ones from Texas Towers. Any problem with the stainless ones?
>
> TIA and 73
>
> Larry K3VX
>
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