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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Divining rods
From: "knormoyle@surfnetusa.com" <knormoyle@surfnetusa.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:44:28 -0700
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In all of these posts, there's an implicit claim that the location of the 
desired object is fully random.
It's not, right? 

For instance, in the pvc case below, the installer has probably seen the full 
range of possible locations from similar houses in 
the area? I'm assuming it's the main water line, and there are no visible 
outside shutoff valves.

Obviously if there are visible shutoff valves either in the lawn or on the 
house, it's almost trivial.

Before describing the amazing solution, doesn't there need to be a better 
explanation of why the target was fully random?

And on the cable location problem: I don't get it. All our cables are copper. 
How come people can't inject a signal of some sort 
and detect it themselves? I mean, isn't this trivial compared to other stuff we 
discuss? Were people talking about some kind of 
cable that they couldn't inject a signal on? (can't you inject on the coax 
ground braid?)

I would think it would be easy to detect something of sufficient strength, down 
to 18" or so (that's what chaser wires do?)


------- Original Message -------
From    : Mickey Baker[mailto:fishflorida@gmail.com]
Sent    : 8/31/2010 12:54:28 PM
To      : k4bg@planters.net
Cc      : TowerTalk@contesting.com
Subject : RE: Re: [TowerTalk] Divining rods

 No matter the claims of many logical thinking, well meaning people on
this list, there has evidently never ever been any scientific evidence
that this works. Sorry, I suspect the physicists here aren't going to
be much help. Known science doesn't explain everything.

For more:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing 

73,
Mickey

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Bob Good <k4bg@planters.net> wrote:
> Gents,  I too am a bit of a skeptic BUT last month in my front yard the 
> contractor burying Fiber showed up to mark existing 
lines.  I was totally taken back when he breaks out two steel rods to locate my 
pvc water line.  He chose this method over 
anything technical.  The rods swung and he pointed to the spot on the ground 
and the spade hit its mark about 10 inches down, the 
water line.  Had I not witnessed this I would have put it in the category of 
the moon phases determining how much dirt it takes to 
refill a hole.  Okay, it's been around for ages.  Now why doesn't someone tell 
us how it works?  Is this another area 51?  Physics 
profs, Please step up to the plate.  It's your turn, yes?  Bob K4BG
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Mickey Baker
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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me, and I will learn.” Teton Lakota, American Indian Saying.
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