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Subject: [TowerTalk] Multiple antennas and Swing Arm Design
From: UpTheTower@aol.com (UpTheTower@aol.com)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 18:03:36 EDT
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In a message dated 98-08-02 11:16:40 EDT, owner-towertalk@contesting.com
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> From: "Gary E. Jones, Ph.D." <gejones@whale.otr.usm.edu>
>  Subject: Multiple antennas and Swing Arm Design
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>  This comment is really a response to N4ZR and deal with his concern with so
>  many yagis on one tower. 
>  
>  Well, my QTH is 70 miles north of the Gulf of Mexico in Mississippi (part
>  of Hurricane Alley). I have had a three yagi 100' stick of Rohn 45 and a
>  two yagi 78' stick of Rohn 25 up through Hurricane Frederick.... sustained
>  winds in Hattiesburg were in excess of 80 MPH. Lodge pole pine trees
>  (60-70') were down everywhere and snapped off in the middle. All my yagis
>  and towers made it through without a scratch. All yagis are heavy duty or
>  stock. 
>  
>  Now, my current Rohn 45 has the 2 element 40, over the 5 element 20, with
>  the swing arm with a 5 element 15 and 5 element 20 in a 20 meter 5 over 5
>  stack configuration 15M = 65" and 20M at 55') and the Th6 at about 35 feet.
>  The TH6 sits at the first set of guys. It has also been through very high
>  wind storms with no problems. The one hurricane we have had since this has
>  been up gave us gusts into 60 - 80 MPH with narry a problem. 
>  
>  Obviously, I try to do things right. And, the difference between Rohn 45
>  and Rohn 25 is a rather substantial difference. I use Rohn guy brackets at
>  all locations, and torque arms, and 1/4" EHS all around. Rohn 45 can take a
>  lot more load than 25. 
>  
>  My big swing arm (12' with 2 big yagis on it) sits right on top of the set
>  of guys at 50'. The swing arm uses 2" angle iron across two faces of the
>  tower, vertical legs 1 and 2 on the bottom of the arm, and vertical legs 2
>  and 3 on the top of the swing arm. The arm is made of 1 1/2" schedule 40
>  water pipe with a cross brace in the center (cold galvanized... wish it was
>  hot dipped). I will try to draw a diagram of it below. I have never doubted
>  that this tower is going to stay up... it is rock solid. The swing arms are
>  twisted with HAM-IVs and there is a TB-3 thrust bearing at the top of the
>  swing arm to take all the lateral torque of the swing arm and the dead
>  weight of the swing arm and the antennas if the rotor needs to be replaced.
>  
>  My new tower will be 140' of Rohn 45 with a 5 element 15 monobander at the
>  top (150'), 2 element 30/ 2 element 40 (shortened) FORCE-12 duo-band yagi
>  at 140' at the top of the tower, a 12' swing arm at 70-80' with a 5 element
>  12 meter (Hygain) at 80' and a 5 element 10 meter (Hygain) at 70' and at
>  40' on a single antenna swing arm will be a 5 element 17 meter monobander
>  (Hygain). My belief is that the yagis will go long before the tower is in
>  trouble. 
>  
>    
>  
>  Diagram of the 12' swing arm...
>  ______________ Thrust Bearing (TB-3)
>  -----------||      2" angle iron 
>             ||______________
>             |-------------|
>             ||         // ||
>             ||        //  ||
>             ||       //   ||
>             ||      //    ||
>             ||     //     ||
>             ||    //      ||
>             ||   //       ||
>             ||  //        ||
>             || //         ||
>             ||//          ||
>             ||/           ||    swing arm itself
>             ||\\          ||
>             || \\         ||
>             ||  \\        ||
>             ||   \\       ||
>             ||    \\      ||
>             ||     \\     ||
>             ||      \\    ||
>             ||       \\   ||
>             ||        \\  ||
>             ||         \\ ||
>             ||          \\||
>             ||___________\||
>             ||--------------
>             ||          
>             ||
>             ||
>            /  \
>            |   |  Rotor
>            |   |
>            |___|________________  2" angle iron
>             --------------------
>  
>  
>  That should give you a good idea of what they look like. 
>  
>  
>  
>                                                       Gary      W5FI 
>  
>  


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