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Re: [TowerTalk] Concrete Bin Blocks for Guy Anchors

To: terry burge <ki7m@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Concrete Bin Blocks for Guy Anchors
From: Charles Gallo <charlie@thegallos.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 20:13:28 -0500
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That I can agree with. Do it like the plans, or get an engineer to do alternate 
plans

--  
73 de KG2V
Charlie

> On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:24 PM, terry burge <ki7m@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Just a little bit of concern from me. I'm not familiar with the concrete 
> 'blocks' you are going to use. For my 117' Rohn 55 tower I used the 7-8' 
> anchor rods that go in at an angle in the ground and planted a good 5' or so. 
> They have a plate at the bottom that screws on and is meant to go up solid 
> again undisturbed ground as a method for holding. Disturbed (dug up ground) 
> is not to be trusted or so the explanations tell). In my case I carried 60# 
> sacks of concrete (25-35) to the holes and poured them in with running the 
> water hose enough to wet the pour down some. Not constant of course. Nothing 
> fancy as far as mixing but it worked. To my SW anchor I added more sacks of 
> concrete and the hole was a bit deeper due to the fact that our biggest wind 
> storms come out of the SW (cyclones or whatever you want to call them out of 
> the Pacific). Not usually real bad winds compared to a lot I've heard of but 
> scary enough with 70-80-90 MPH winds. Four sets of guys on it in three 
> directions every 120 degrees. 
> 
> Mine is a pretty substantia setup and I'd recommend you at least add a lot of 
> concrete to the holes about 5-6' deep. 150' is a pretty substantial tower. If 
> you want to see pictures check out my QRZ page.
> 
> Terry
> KI7M
> 
>> On December 15, 2018 at 4:01 PM Charles Gallo <charlie@thegallos.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I believe they do have rebar in them, but you might have cold seams too (if 
>> they don’t have enough spare concrete at the end of the day to make a full 
>> block. I could ask at work on Tuesday (next time I’m in the office). Trust 
>> me, I know we make a lot of them
>> 
>> --  
>> 73 de KG2V
>> Charlie
>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 6:49 PM, <john@kk9a.com> <john@kk9a.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 150' of Rohn 55G tower is a pretty substantial structure and you do not want
>>> to skimp on one of the key components. To my knowledge there is no rebar in
>>> the premade blocks and I am guessing that the steel loops are designed just
>>> for transporting the blocks and not the thousands of pounds that can be
>>> created by guy cables.  Also even my 80' Rohn 55g tower has larger anchor
>>> slabs than one of these blocks.  
>>> 
>>> John KK9A
>>> 
>>> 
>>> KC8HZ wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've been thinking about guy anchors for a tower I'll be putting up next
>>> spring. The tower will be 150 feet of Rohn 55 and it will require 3 triple
>>> guys.
>>> Instead of poured concrete for the guy anchors I've been thinking about
>>> using some of those Concrete Bin Blocks which are 2'x2'x4'. I'd bury them
>>> and attach the guy ends to the steel loops imbedded into the blocks.
>>> Does anyone have thoughts on them ?
>>> 
>>> RoGrrr
>>> Roger
>>> KC8HZ
>>> Ohio
>>> 
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