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Subject: [Towertalk] ABC Home Owners Assoc Expose
From: rmoodyg@concentric.net (Richard M. Gillingham)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 21:04:42 -0400
Slick,  Really slick...

Paul Christensen wrote:

>I'm with you Brian.  I am in Jacksonville and Naples is nearly a mirror image 
>only its a bit newer and overall, a "nicer" place to
>live since the Gulf coast of Florida is absolutely gorgeous.  Unless you live 
>in an underdeveloped area, erecting any kind of
>antenna will be difficult.  In my case, I presently have wire antennas in the 
>pine trees.  pine trees are a ham's best friend in
>Florida...they may be the only antenna support you will have.  I also use a 
>Force12 Sigma vertical painted flat black.  It can be
>seen from the front of the house, but you really have to look for it.  So far 
>so good with the neighbors and HOA.
>
>Now, what is really exciting is that my back yard forms the perimiter of the 
>gated community.  The land directly behind me is
>county-zoned property, not deed restricted, and will be subject to PRB-1.  I 
>have a letter of intent to proceed on a land contract
>with the landowner for an easement to run with the land.  Once I get county 
>approval, the HOA cannot do a damn thing about it.
>Fortunately, I did not waive my right to contract when I purchased the home.  
>Some HOA will get hip to that one some day.  Anyway,
>the tower will be placed 20-feet behind my lot line with bury-rated LMR-400 
>run between my house and the tower.
>
>My point here is that it IS possible to live in a tightly controlled CC&R 
>community and operate big time radio, if you are wise in
>choosing your property.
>
>-Paul, W9AC
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brian Hemmis" <K3USC@worldnet.att.net>
>To: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>
>Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 5:43 PM
>Subject: Re: [Towertalk] ABC Home Owners Assoc Expose
>
>
>>I'm going through the "pre" phases of this now, Paul. Anticipating
>>relocating from Erie, PA (15 acres & 2 towers) to Naples, FL
>>subdivision...At this point I'd be happy with a 40' tower, tribander &
>>wire...doesn't seem like it's going to happen there...even attempts to sneak
>>in a wire loop or something could get me in big trouble it seems. Yet it
>>looks like I can run a home business, meet clients etc, from a home in
>>Naples- go figure...Hate to give up a hobby of 40 years or have to work only
>>mobile or from the radio club's station...Seems like we're all becoming
>>"internet hams" anyway...Thanks for all your thoughtful incite. 73, Brian
>>K3USC (since 1962)
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>
>>To: "Brian Hemmis" <K3USC@worldnet.att.net>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 10:34 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Towertalk] ABC Home Owners Assoc Expose
>>
>>
>>>Brian, the counter-argument is what % of the voting population are
>>>
>>electing their legislators?  Who else is placing these people
>>
>>>into their legislative positions?  100% of the voting population is not
>>>
>>comprised of attorneys.
>>
>>>Reform is a legislative issue, not a judicial issue regardless of the
>>>
>>number of attorneys who sit in Congressional seats.  This is
>>
>>>the reason why the FCC correctly deferred the ARRL's recent preemption
>>>
>>petition to Congress...precisely where it belongs.
>>
>>>Look, I am in complete agreement that reasonable accommodation and
>>>
>>preemption should extend to all HOA and restrictive covenants,
>>
>>>but the proper process for change shouldn't be overlooked.
>>>
>>>-Paul, W9AC
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Brian Hemmis" <K3USC@worldnet.att.net>
>>>To: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>
>>>Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:44 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Towertalk] ABC Home Owners Assoc Expose
>>>
>>>
>>>>what  % of  legislators are lawyers ????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>
>>>>To: "N9EN@VOYAGER.NET" <n9en@voyager.net>; "TowerTalk Post"
>>>><towertalk@contesting.com>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:17 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Towertalk] ABC Home Owners Assoc Expose
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>What's most sickening to me about the whole situation is
>>>>>>all of the lawyers who perpetuate this and the judges that
>>>>>>allow it to go on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Brad, this is not an issue of attorney's and judges.  Attorney's
>>>>>
>>represent
>>
>>>>parties who can bring a prima-facia claim under the
>>>>
>>>>>current law.  Judges, have the duty to ensure that claims have
>>>>>
>>relevancy
>>
>>>>against the current law and that cases are adjudicated
>>>>
>>>>>fairly under the current law.
>>>>>
>>>>>Your gripe needs to be directed to your legislators.  Unlike attorneys
>>>>>
>>and
>>
>>>>judges, they are empowered to change the law, but they
>>>>
>>>>>need your input.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Paul, W9AC
>>>>>
>>>>>
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