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Re: [TowerTalk] Insulators

To: K1TTT <K1TTT@ARRL.NET>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Insulators
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:59:45 -0400
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K1TTT wrote:
> That link I gave was for white.  And what are the rf characteristics of
> electric fence fiberglass anyway?
>   
It came up black on mine...<:-))
At-any-rate, Regular fiberglass has variable characteristics depending 
on the epoxy and density of the fiberglass/resin mix, how the fiberglass 
was handled  prior to adding the epoxy (its very sensitive to moisture), 
but in the long run at amateur power levels and several times beyond up 
through VHF they are far more than adequate.  With colored fiberglass 
the pigment is sometimes a concern as most constructed with electronic 
specs in mind.

Under normal circumstances the fiberglass is probably a better insulator 
than ceramic, BUT without proper protection fiberglass deteriorates. The 
power industry uses fiberglass cross over support arms and the following 
link talks about the short comings when a good protective coating is not 
used and they are running far more voltage than we normally do, but at a 
much lower frequency. 
http://tdworld.com/overhead_distribution/power_flashover_characteristics_fiberglass/
   
watch out for line wrap in some readers.

73

Roger (K8RI)
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Roger (K8RI) [mailto:K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 07:15
>> To: K1TTT
>> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Insulators
>>
>>
>>
>> K1TTT wrote:
>>     
>>> Just remember, you get what you pay for... and if a material isn't
>>>       
>> designed
>>     
>>> for a specific job then it may not do a very good job at it.  in my
>>> experience electric fence post material degrades pretty quickly in the
>>> sun/rain, after only a year or two the whole surface is nothing but
>>>       
>> loose
>>     
>>> fibers.  So if nothing else you might want to consider some uv
>>>       
>> protective
>>     
>>> paint on it.
>>>
>>> By comparison, this material is a bit more expensive ($39.54/5'), but
>>>       
>> comes
>>     
>>> with known size tolerance, tensile strength specs, and statements about
>>> environmental performance.  http://www.mcmaster.com/#8543k11/=3zm45w
>>> And could probably be on your doorstep Monday or Tuesday.
>>>
>>>       
>> But what are it's electrical characteristics and particularly at RF,
>> particularly as it's black?
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Roger (K8RI)
>>     
>>> David Robbins K1TTT
>>> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
>>> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
>>> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: n8de@thepoint.net [mailto:n8de@thepoint.net]
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 20:44
>>>> To: towertalk@contesting.com
>>>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Insulators
>>>>
>>>> FYI:
>>>>
>>>> I discovered a new source for insulator material that I will be using
>>>> on my 80m tower verticals.
>>>>
>>>> At the local 'feed store', I found 1+1/4" fiberglass ROD with a few
>>>> small pre-drilled holes ... it's designed to be used as an electric
>>>> fence post.  The rod is VERY STRONG and should hold up quite well.
>>>>
>>>> The cost for a 6' rod is about $6 .... quite inexpensive.  Cutting it
>>>> into 6+" lengths is quite easy.
>>>>
>>>> CAUTION:
>>>>
>>>> When handling this item, WEAR GLOVES as the fiberglass is RAW and will
>>>> leave microfibers in your SKIN.
>>>>
>>>> When CUTTING it or DRILLING it ... wear EYE PROTECTION.  You won't
>>>> like the effect should any 'flakes' get in your eyes.
>>>>
>>>> Tower/antennas going up next week .. .FINALLY.
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>> N8DE
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