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Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Fwd: OT: Satellite Internet

To: Adam Shirley WJ4X <wj4x@amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Fwd: OT: Satellite Internet
From: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:08:09 -0700
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Adam Shirley WJ4X wrote:
> Your amateur radio license allows you to use "out of band" wireless
> networking.. You can move out of the standard channels for wireless
> networking and use some power and do a lot with IP over RF.
> 
> http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/wireless/modify.html
> 
> i.e. If a neighbor 10 miles away has DSL, there's nothing that can stop
> you from installing a 2.4GHz backhaul from his place to yours. (if you
> have line of sight)
> 
> On 8/27/2010 3:40 PM, hanslg@aol.com wrote:
>>  How easy would it be to arrange an I-connection on UHF? We did relatively 
>> good linking all our digipeaters together and go one step further should be 
>> possible especially with all the towers we have up. Remember now, some (if 
>> not most) of us have the tower strictly due to the PRB1 and that is only 
>> supporting FCC97  use. I have that restriction and knowing my neighbors, 
>> they will report any deviation they can imagine. I can't even put up a TV 
>> antenna without them complaining.
>>
>> By the way; isn't there something about "reuse of towers" law somewhere, 
>> meaning that if a cellphone provider what to share my tower the zoning board 
>> can do nothing about it?
>>
>> Hans - N2JFS
>>

oh wow.. this opens a whole can of worms..

First, the OTARD rules contain provisions for wireless internet, 
essentially pre-empting any HOA, City, County, etc rules for such things 
as MMDS and Wireless Internet.    But, I think there were some cases 
where it was held that just because you can put up a tower for a WISP, 
you can't leverage that to put your triband beam up there too.

Now, as to using ham bands for internet access.  That gets into the "are 
you doing business?" rules, and this isn't the proverbial "order a pizza 
on the autopatch" sort of thing. Not to mention the no obscuring of 
meaning rules.  Pretty tough to run a SSH or https session over that ham 
internet connection without breaking that particular rule.

This isn't to say that people don't do it, nor that it may or may not be 
legal.  It's just one of those areas where I think there is a slippery 
slope.

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