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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Calibrating antenna direction and using chokes with a beam
From: K8RI <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:40:43 -0400
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On 10/25/2012 9:46 PM, Dan Hearn wrote:
Here is a system which works for me and others in our ham club.
Look in the newspaper for the times of sun up and sun down. Calculate the
hours and minutes between. Divide this by 2 and that is the time of exact
noon. At that time, look at the shadow of your tower or a vertical post and
the shadow points to true north. Hopefully your newspaper has sunup/sundown
times as ours does.

They are on the Internet for virtually any location. Enter your coordinates and the times will come up.
Just do a google search on sun rise and sun set for your coordinates.

However, unless really directionally challenged, "over that way" is normally close enough for a 3L beam. For dipoles, "over that way" is way more precision than required.

I've never bothered to get much more precise than "over there" even with a 7L monobander.


73, Dan, N5AR

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Mike <noddy1211@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

There is going to be a website that will give your declination relative to
Magnetic North in ZL, I would go with that.  In California here finding a
strong station and adjusting the beam would be futile as the signal maybe
following a crooked path.  In California we are pretty much at 18 degrees
off Magnetic north, so it would make a difference to make the adjustment
for

All navigation charts I've seen (I'm a pilot) have magnetic deviation given for all areas on the chart. Or better yet, use Google Earth for your location. OTOH there are sites that will do it for zip code in the US and you can pick any specific date.

Here in Central Michigan I'm roughly 34 37 N by 84 20W the declination is about 7 4 W, negative. Use a compass and subtract about 7 degrees.

In CA with 18 degrees (actually far N CA) positive you take the compass reading and "ADD" 18 degrees.

With the compass you have to be aware of local deviations at ground level. The chart at the "compass store" completely ignores these while aviation charts do not.

However I like the sunup to sundown time divided by two and look at the shadow. Drive a stake in the ground at the tip of the shadow. (Not necessarily noon) You can't get much more precise than that even with precision instruments. Just remember the shadow points North when you are North of the equator and South when South of the equator.

Done by zip code:  It'd be more precise by actual coordinates.
Today our sunrise is 804AM and sunset is 6:37 PM (1837). 1837-804=1033/2=516.5 804+516.5=1320.5 or 1:20:30 PM for due North.

73

Roger (K8RI)


True North.

You government is sure to have a website, but if not any serious navigation
website in ZL will have True north relative to your position.  Even my car
manual shows true north so you can set the car compass.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Rick
Kiessig
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:04 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Calibrating antenna direction and using chokes with a
beam

I finished building my antenna (UltraBeam UB-50) and installing it on the
tower yesterday. Everything went reasonably smoothly.



I tried to align the boom with true north before bolting it to the mast,
but
the result seems to be off by at least 10 degrees or so. I'm familiar with
the techniques for determining true north (although Polaris isn't visible
in
ZL), but I'm wondering if it's possible to do a more accurate calibration
by
measuring signal strength from a strong broadcaster with a known location
and a near-constant signal strength, over a range of azimuths. Then use the
center azimuth between two equal near-nulls on either side of the peak as
the calibration point. If this is viable, any suggestions for good station
to use as a target? Does frequency matter?



What's the Best Practice with regard to using common mode chokes on the
feedline coming from a beam? I grounded the shield at the tower and again
outside the shack, with a lightning arrestor as well at the latter.



Can't say I'm too happy with the way my rotator loop came out. I wrapped it
around the mast on top of the thrust bearing, but the TB has some bolts
that
stick out. Hopefully they won't grab or scrape the coax too much.



I also have a UHF connector on one segment of LMR-600 that didn't seem to
go
onto a barrel connector as well as it should have. They are odd connectors
that have a very snug rotating collar, rather than the kind I'm used to
that
have a little up-and-down give in the direction of the cable. The center
pin
went in roughly 4 or 5 mm, but the collar hung up after only about two
turns. It's very snug (too snug), so I think the threads may have crossed.
I'm reluctant to take it apart now, though, since if the threads are
crossed, I may never get it together again, and it's a long segment of
LMR-600, which I don't have the tools or skills to replace connectors
myself. TDR on the line looks OK, and I did some TX tests at low, medium
and
high power, and didn't see any problems. I imagine I'm just asking for
trouble if I don't fix it, though, right?



73, Rick ZL2HAM





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