On Mon,8/25/2014 10:49 AM, RLVZ--- via TowerTalk wrote:
The GP
Vertical performed very poorly and operating was a miserable experience as I
found it very difficult to makes Qso's,
I'm in a dense redwood forest, and work all bands from 160M - 2M. I've
tried verticals on 160, 80, and 40, all over excellent ground-mounted
radial systems. I also have high (120 ft) dipoles for 80 and 40. On 80
and 40, the high dipoles always beat the verticals by a lot, so I took
the verticals down. I also had a loaded (about 170 ft long) dipole for
160M up 120 ft. The vertical nearly always beat it, often by a lot, so I
took it down too.
I have a 3-el SteppIR (4-el on 6M) at about 120 ft, in a clearing just
big enough for me to be able to turn it. It works fine, even though the
trees surrounding it rise at least 50 ft above it. In 8 years, 313
countries, and 328 6M grids. 2M is tough for vertical polarization,
better (but still not great) for horizontal.
That said, trees are not the only thing that affect the efficiency of
vertical antennas, especially on the lower bands. In addition to the
trees, my soil is pretty poor too -- rocky, mountainous. So is it the
trees or the soil, or both? I'd say probably both.
73, Jim K9YC
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