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Re: [TowerTalk] How to apply lube to HDX589

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] How to apply lube to HDX589
From: Bob K6UJ <k6uj@pacbell.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 09:28:08 -0700
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Bert,

Sounds like a good option to me Bert.  I guess it is a cost issue with the 
tower company.
They would need to charge more for the locking device addition and would this 
addition
have a positive impact on sales ?  Maybe they could offer this an option.

The bigee for me is the cables and sheaves.  I would like to see an option 
(which I would gladly 
pay for) to have stainless steel cables and sheaves with zerk fittings so I 
could grease them regularly with my grease gun
like I do the thrust bearings on the mast.  That would be super.   I think 
these options would pay for themselves,
I have hired to have the cables and bad sheaves replaced and it aint cheap !!

73,
Bob
K6UJ


On Jun 15, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Bert Almemo wrote:

> If you used a locking device on each section cables wouldn't be such a big
> issue and would last a lot longer. Many european crank-up tower
> manufacturers use locking devices on their towers. Versatower in one of
> them.
> 
> How come US mfgrs don't use the same devices? Has anyone asked the US mfgrs
> why they don't use section locks? Maybe someone can pick up on the idea and
> make aftermarket locks? There is definitely room for improvement!!
> 
> Locking each section would dramatically increase safety and you wouldn't
> have to read about towers coming down killing people and damaging equipment.
> OMHO! 
> 
> 73 Bert, VE3NR
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Andre
> VanWyk
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:39 PM
> To: Steve Dyer
> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com; john@kk9a.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] How to apply lube to HDX589
> 
> Well I never heard of a crank up tower that failed because the cables were
> not lubricated PROVIDING manufacturer guidelines are followed and cables are
> changed when required.
> 
> I think we as hams tend to both try to reinvent the wheel too many times. If
> it ain't broken, don't fix it!
> 
> NJ0F 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 13, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Steve Dyer <w1srd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> K7LXC breaks the prime directive for lubricating crank-up cables. He sells
> Prelube 6 on his site and recommends using it. And yes, any professional
> user of wire rope always lubricates their cables on a regular
> maintenance/inspection schedule.
>> It baffles me why anyone would not lube the cable with the *proper*
> lubricant since the cable is THE critical link in a crank-up.
>> It's a testament to how well the cable holds up that more failures haven't
> occurred. That and it's way over-sized to the load.
>> 73,
>> Steve
>> W1SRD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: "john@kk9a.com" <john@kk9a.com>
>> To: towertalk@contesting.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] How to apply lube to HDX589
>> 
>> 
>> Lubricating the cable does go against the K7LXC prime directive. US 
>> towers recommends replacing the cable every three years.
>> 
>> Most wire rope is lubricated during manufacturing. Lubrication does 
>> two
>> things:
>> 
>> Reduces friction as the individual wires move over each other.
>> 
>> Provides corrosion protection and lubrication in the core and inside 
>> wires and on the exterior surfaces.
>> 
>> If I owned a crank-up tower I would keep the cables lubricated and 
>> only change them if there was noticeable corrosion or broken strands .
>> 
>> John KK9A
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To:     Bryan Swadener <bswadener@yahoo.com>
>> Subject:     Re: [TowerTalk] How to apply lube to HDX589
>> From:     Andre VanWyk <kr5dx@yahoo.com>
>> Date:     Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:45:37 -0400
>> 
>> 
>> I am missing something here as US Tower advises against lubricating
> cables.
>> 
>> What are you gaining by lubricating cable? I my opinion if a 
>> un-lubricated galvanized cable shows signs of rust, it is time to replace
> it.
>> 
>> 73's
>> NJ0F
>> 
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