Thanks! Sorry for the sharp reply. Having spent much extra time on a
puzzle that was supposed to be an easy 8 hour project it's a bit of a
sore subject.
Got some CNC aluminum from them for a KT34a upgrade that needed some
dremel work, so this isn't a first.
Based on past experience, I should have known. It's really my fault
for trying to spend in order to be able to operate. rather than play
with antennas.
The elements are too long, actually. I considered resizing them. There
is a limit of what I'll do to fix a problem.
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Patrick Greenlee
<patrick_g@windstream.net> wrote:
> Sorry for the bonehead comment. I was not thinking small antenna as I am
> working a LARGE antenna project. My fault. Yeah, 1/16 is a fair error in
> that size domain.
>
> Odd that the supplier won't make it right for one customer and goes the
> second mile for another. A quick way to lose future sales is to mistreat a
> TT poster.
>
> If I was "stuck" with something like this I'd write it up and post to eHAM
> and wherever else I could and then put my spool gun onto the end of the lead
> from my Hobart MIG and add a little length to the missing places. A pain
> that shouldn't have to be but I think the effort to correct is not such a
> big deal as to be a bad choice. Of course if you don't weld aluminum or
> have a friend who does then that may be too expensive to hire done.
>
> I hope an acceptable resolution is found.
>
> Patrick N5G
>
>
> On 4/13/2015 7:39 AM, Lizeth Norman wrote:
>>
>> Hey Pat!
>> How do you assemble an antenna when the elements are not the size
>> listed on the diagram?? 42 pieces of utter confusion.
>> Read before commenting, please!!
>> Norm n3ykf
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Patrick Greenlee
>> <patrick_g@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not a Yagi guru or an EZNEC modeler. Can someone tell me what 1/16 of
>>> an
>>> inch in element length means in performance parameters in the example
>>> below?
>>> I have done mostly wire antennas and 1/16 or 1/8 didn't seem to make much
>>> difference.
>>>
>>> Patrick NJ5G
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/13/2015 7:10 AM, Lizeth Norman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bought a 432CP42UG from M2. Would you believe that of 21 pair of
>>>> elements, 14 PAIR were the wrong size? 13 pair were 1/16" off. 1 pair
>>>> was 1/8"
>>>>
>>>> Never, never again. 700$ waste.
>>>>
>>>> It took me 2 hours of puzzlement to discern the problem.
>>>>
>>>> The bad news is that they have NO WARRANTY WHATSOEVER!!! YOU BUY IT
>>>> IT'S YOUR BABY!!!!
>>>>
>>>> See here:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/n3ykf/16913167247/
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the photos, the elements are lying on paper that shows that
>>>> the correct measurement as well as what should be the actual
>>>> measurement. The elements are all represented.
>>>>
>>>> The assembly diagram shows that 9 pair are 1/16" different from each
>>>> other.
>>>>
>>>> This screw up makes the wrong element the right size, as well as the
>>>> converse.
>>>>
>>>> Good news is that it's a match at 50 Ohms. What sort of pattern and
>>>> G/T is anyone's guess.
>>>>
>>>> BTW: There is another problem. Whoever designed the antenna is a liar.
>>>> He/she defines the antenna as rated for 100 MPH. The antenna boom is
>>>> secured to the cross boom (this is an antenna designed for an az/el
>>>> array) by a pair of #8 screws. When the hurricane comes (I live in
>>>> FL), common sense says the antenna is history. I will be happy to snap
>>>> pics of it streaming downwind of the tower. Who needs an engineering
>>>> degree to see this?
>>>>
>>>> FYI: Mike no longer works there. My experience with M2 customer
>>>> service has been abysmal. I have owned 4 of their antennas (18 year
>>>> time span). Still own 3. Have the receipts if some parasite of a
>>>> lawyer wants to see them.
>>>>
>>>> Ask me and I'll tell you the story about how Mike's wife was screaming
>>>> obscenities at me AND Mike at the same time, then she hung up. Was
>>>> something about the package being 1/3 of the weight I was billed for.
>>>> Rip off artist.
>>>>
>>>> Norman J McSweyn n3ykf
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