We lawyers have made everyone paranoid! I'm sure they put lots of fudge factor
in their current ratings.
Dale K4ROZ
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: gorilla hooks (David Gilbert)
2. Re: OTQ (Its from Onion)
3. Re: gorilla hooks (K1TTT)
4. Re: gorilla hooks (K1TTT)
5. Re: Fall Harness-My Choice (Glenn Thorne)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:12:01 -0700
From: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] gorilla hooks
To: towertalk@contesting.com
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I posted the link for the ones I use in my first message, but here it is again
...
*http://tinyurl.com/25dns9a
*I believe that Champion Radio carries a large gorilla hook as well,
except made from steel. I like the lighter weight of the aluminum
alloy ones, but other may have different preferences.
73,
Dave AB7E
*
*
On 8/14/2010 9:49 AM, Cqtestk4xs@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 8/14/2010 8:44:34 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
> xdavid@cis-broadband.com writes:
>
> The gorilla hooks release and open all in the same hand gripping
> motion, so it is not appreciably slower than simply climbing or descending.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~~~~~
> ~
>
> Where can one purchase the "gorilla hooks".
>
> Bill KH7XS/K4XS
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:11:58 -0500
From: "Its from Onion" <aredandgold@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] OTQ
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
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Dale,
I made a bet that this thread would revert to a house bracket tower wind load
question.
Its not really the people fault that only read the Rohn manual and never have
climbed a tower.
They don't understand how nervous the company bean counters get when someone
sues them.
The wind blows and someone gets sued.
That they don't have Rohn specs dated 25 years ago that spec 25 like 45 is
specked today.
As far as 'them' telling me I should be 'worrying' about adding a extra 6 sq.
ft of wind load, I don't.
Why, you ask?
The 3el 40m was so heavy when we tramed the antenna up it bent the DOM mast!
What did we do?
Replace the tower? Replace the mast pole?
Nope, we rotated the mast, hooked the truck back up to the pole and pulled it
back straight!
I GUARANTEE YOU that we put more stress on that tower that ANY hurricane wind
could.
So yes Dale I think you had a great set-up and like yours, mine don't creek,
move or sway.
Take care and
73,
Lee
KE4VYN
Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 04:47:23 +0000
From: "Dale M. Schwartz" <dale@immlawfirm.com<mailto:dale@immlawfirm.com>>
Subject: [TowerTalk] OTQ
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Lee: I had an 80' Rohn 25 tower with two house brackets bolted into a 40' high
chimney with NO guy wires it was up for 30 years in an area that sometimes gets
pretty strong wind gusts here in Atlanta. It never even vibrated. I swear to
you that in 30 years we never had to climb the tower once-- not for the 4 el
tribander; not for the rotor (never ever lubricated); not for the coax or
connectors. Maybe just lucky???
Dale. K4ROZ
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:16:19 +0000
From: "K1TTT" <K1TTT@ARRL.NET>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] gorilla hooks
To: <TOWERTALK@contesting.com>
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The 'gorilla' hooks I have are just spring action hooks, I would be very
surprised if they are rated for live loads.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com [mailto:Cqtestk4xs@aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 16:49
> To: TOWERTALK@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] gorilla hooks
>
> In a message dated 8/14/2010 8:44:34 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
> xdavid@cis-broadband.com writes:
>
> The gorilla hooks release and open all in the same hand gripping
> motion, so it is not appreciably slower than simply climbing or descending.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~~~
> ~~
> ~
>
> Where can one purchase the "gorilla hooks".
>
> Bill KH7XS/K4XS
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:30:22 +0000
From: "K1TTT" <K1TTT@ARRL.NET>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] gorilla hooks
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
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That is not what I have seen advertised as 'gorilla hooks', those are obviously
designed for live loads.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Gilbert [mailto:xdavid@cis-broadband.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 17:12
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] gorilla hooks
>
>
> I posted the link for the ones I use in my first message, but here it
> is again ...
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/25dns9a
>
> *I believe that Champion Radio carries a large gorilla hook as well,
> except made from steel. I like the lighter weight of the aluminum
> alloy ones, but other may have different preferences.
>
> 73,
> Dave AB7E
> *
> *
>
> On 8/14/2010 9:49 AM, Cqtestk4xs@aol.com wrote:
> > In a message dated 8/14/2010 8:44:34 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
> > xdavid@cis-broadband.com writes:
> >
> > The gorilla hooks release and open all in the same hand gripping
> motion,
> > so it is not appreciably slower than simply climbing or descending.
> >
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~~~
> ~~
> > ~
> >
> > Where can one purchase the "gorilla hooks".
> >
> > Bill KH7XS/K4XS
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:54:55 -0500
From: "Glenn Thorne" <gathorne@traer.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fall Harness-My Choice
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
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I have the cable on my HD-80 AN Wireless tower. Until I got the cable up I
used two straps like Dave. One was, and still is, my fall arrest lanyard.
The cable sleeve makes it easy to stay safe when ascending and descending.
Much quicker than using the two straps.
73, Glenn/KD0Q
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Gilbert" <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fall Harness-My Choice
>
> I have an AN Wireless HD-70 freestanding tower with the foot pegs ...
> slippery enough to require caution when wet, but not treacherous. I
> climb with a full body harness with two relatively short safety straps,
> neither of which are fall arrest lanyards. Each safety strap has a
> self-locking gorilla hook on the end (required because of the large
> steel cross braces on the tower), and one or the other hook is ALWAYS
> attached to a cross brace as I climb. I even have a third strap and
> gorilla hook coming from a separate belt around my waist that I affix to
> the tower while I am working.
>
<snip>.
>
> 73,
> Dave AB7E
>
>
>
> On 8/13/2010 4:34 PM, Jim Thomson wrote:
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:09:25 -0500
>> From: "Noid Wilson-NM5I "<noid1037@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Fall Harness-My Choice
>> Dear Group,
>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> ## How many folks on here run the 3/8" winch cable from top
>> to bottom of the tower, and use the positive locking device, hooked to
>> your
>> climbing gear of choice? IE: if you slip, get stung by a wasp, get
>> dizzy from
>> the heat, etc, what's stopping you from falling 100'....aside from the
>> next set of
>> guy wires below you ? I see the Trylon version of this device uses a
>> shock absorber
>> at the top of the tower. Some versions use a 3/8" cable..and some
>> versions use a
>> square tubing rail, running the entire height of the tower.
>>
>> Later... Jim VE7RF
>>
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