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[TowerTalk] C3 on WARC bands

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Subject: [TowerTalk] C3 on WARC bands
From: thorh@worldnet.att.net (Thor Hallen)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 07:00:49 -0700
Apparently the C3 and especially the C3E do much better on the WARC bands
than the C3SS. The C3SS linear loading causes very high SWR on 17 meters. I
am in the process of replacing my C3SS with a Tennadyne T6 log periodic.
IMHO the Force 12 advertising is misleading about the C3SS performance on 17
meters. The C3SS is a fine antenna on the bands it was designed for - 10,15
& 20 meters.

73,
Thor Hallen K5AGE

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From: owner-towertalk@contesting.com
[mailto:owner-towertalk@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Chris Burger
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 2:00 AM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] C3 on WARC bands


I have no dedicated WARC antennas, except a pseudo-vertical on 10 MHz (used
aluminium that was too soft!).  Here are my findings; nothing measured or
concrete, just that "it works".

I force-feed the C3 on 12 and 17, and also occasionally on 30.  It's mounted
at about 17 m (50').  SWR is around 4:1, 1,8:1 and 3:1 respectively.
There's very little F/B on 12 and 30, but probably around 10 dB on 17.  I
normally use the amplifier (2 x 3-500Z, GG) as an Active Antenna Tuner, and
make sure that the grid current is in limits.

It works well enough.  Comparisons with a Cushcraft A3WS showed little
difference on 12 and 17.  It is several dB worse than the vertical on 30,
although it sometimes hears better (polarisation, I guess).  I've never had
a situation when it was a better transmit antenna than the vertical on 30.

Given that I'm a contester, and only occasionally play some DX on the WARC
bands, it does everything I need on the WARC bands.  I have an average of
over 250 countries on each band, with very limited operating.

One caveat:  With the severe mismatches that you'll see, you need to think
carefully about the choice of balun.  If you use a ferrite core transformer,
you will come to grief.  I use a simple coax choke (about a dozen turns of
RG213), and it hasn't failed in almost five years of usage.  A friend used a
commercial balun with his C3, and blew it up in short order.

Short version:  It works, if you can handle the SWR and you don't use a
fancy balun.

Chris R. Burger
ZS6EZ

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