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Re: [VHFcontesting] Coax Switch vs. Duplexer

To: Jarred.Jackson@hotmail.com, vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Coax Switch vs. Duplexer
From: John Young via VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Reply-to: nosigma@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 22:28:40 -0400
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The below relates to FM Simplex frequencies.
If this is just for casual conversation use the diplexer it makes life very 
easy.  If this is a weak signal contest set up go with the switch.  After the 
January VHF/UHF contest I put a lot of effort into minimizing losses and 
getting VSWR, losses and reflected power as low as possible on my set up. I was 
running Yagi's on 144 and 440 with an FT8800 (dual band radio) single output.  
I was using the Comet CF-4160 to let me run a single cable up the mast from the 
radio to the two Yagi's.  No single cable had a VSWR over 1.10 with most being 
1.05 or less. With the CF-4160 inserted the VSWR to the 440 antenna jumped to 
2.4  to 2.9 and the 144 was at 1.6 to 1.8 across the simplex frequencies.  Not 
a big deal at 144, a horrible outcome for 70cm.  I installed a coax switch 
(Alpha Delta) and saw the VSWR at 440 drop to below 1.4 at 144 and below 1.6 at 
440.  


When I add start adding TE amplifiers,with integral pre amps, this summer I may 
use a triplexer between the radio's and and the amps but the added reflected 
power and insertion losses will be have no effect on output power and minimal 
effect on received signal since they are between the radio and the amps.  I 
will never use a triplexer or diplexer between the antenna and TX output or 
first stage RX amp again.



73
John 
KM4KMU



-----Original Message-----
From: Jarred Jackson <Jarred.Jackson@hotmail.com>
To: vhfcontesting <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2016 7:01 pm
Subject: [VHFcontesting] Coax Switch vs. Duplexer

I have an IC-7000 with a common VHF/UHF output and switch between 2m and 70cm 
amplifiers/antennas using a Diamond CX-210A  coax switch. I am thinking of 
replacing the switch with a Comet CF-4160 duplexer that I have had laying 
around unused. I would like one less thing to do when switching between bands. 
It looks like there is 10dB less isolation (60 vs. 70 dB) and about 0.1 dB 
additional loss by using the duplexer. The radio sends the amplifiers 5W on 2m 
and around 28W on 70cm.


Any concerns / thoughts on making this change? It seems straightforward, but I 
have had the same thought on other changes that haven't turned out so well.


Thanks,


Jarred - KF2MR
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