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Re: [VHFcontesting] [NEWSVHF] ARRL 222 MHz and Up K1WHS

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] [NEWSVHF] ARRL 222 MHz and Up K1WHS
From: David Olean <k1whs@metrocast.net>
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 15:07:02 -0400
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Thanks Ron,

I will try N3JFP. A while ago I registered and paid up with N3JFP, so I have access to that program. I need to check it out.

The contact I had with VA3IKE (964 km) from Maine, bolsters my contention that there is a mechanism going on where the Great Lakes can provide a means of extending your range.  The location of Lake Ontario and Erie can provide a boost of maybe 10 dB for a station well situated to take advantage of it.  It does not happen routinely, but I am convinced that it is there more than we realize. It looks to me that someone in the Montreal area can take maximum advantage of this situation. N1JEZ and others in Northern VT and NH have a great seat as well.  At my location, a bit more to the South, I think the path to Toronto takes advantage of Lake Ontario, while stations in Detroit and down to northern Indiana can be worked on occasion as a result of Lake Erie effects. All it takes is a semi duct forming on the lake to reduce the normal tropo scatter losses due to our curved Earth.  All this convinces me to at least try a short sked with midwestern stations each Tuesday evening to test out the paths.   When I worked VA3IKE, the atmosphere near me was boiling with thunderstorms. The weather was fine out around the lakes.  All very interesting!

One word of caution. You will not see this unless your station is capable of overcoming path losses of a bit over 200 dB.  After all, your signal has to be able to get to the great Lakes in the first place!  I looked at southern New England and there is little effect from the Great Lakes to anywhere.  The good news is that tropo systems seem to favor southern New England about 100% of the time, so don't be too upset that you miss out on teeney weeney enhancements over the two Great Lakes.

Now to get my 902, 3400, 5760 and 24 GHz stuff working again.

GB Dave K1WHS

On 8/5/2024 11:00 AM, Ron Klimas WZ1V wrote:
Hey Good Buddy Dave - You done great.
I use N3FJP VHF Contest Log for distance contests now,
does the Kilometer-multiplier calculations on-the-fly.
Speaking of multipliers, 24 GHz x20 - and a few good
rain scatter contacts could "win" the contest with 1 band.

73 Ron WZ1V

----- Original Message -----
From: David Olean <k1whs@metrocast.net>
To: wz1v@sbcglobal.net, newsvhf@mailman.qth.net, vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2024 22:40:28 -0400
Subject: Re: [NEWSVHF] ARRL 222 MHz and Up K1WHS

Hello Good Buddy Ron,
I entered my score on 3830 but the numbers did not look right, so  I
added up all the distances on both of my bands and applied the 1X mult
to 432 and 2X to 222 MHz.  The number that I came up with was way
different from what N1MM said, but that log was all messed up as I made
about half of my contacts without N1MM.  Still it was good to look at
the distances and see how each of the bands played.

On 222 MHz my best distance was to VE3ZV in EN92 at 752 km. WA3DRC  at
663 km was another one.  K1RZ at 691 km rounded out the longest contacts

I had eight stations worked on 222 MHz that were in the 500-600 km bracket.

On 432 I had better luck as my best distance was VA3IKE in EN82 at 964
km. VE3ZV at 752 km (On SSB no less!!) , K1RZ at 691 km andWA3DRC at 663
km also on SSB.

There were six more stations worked at the 500-600 km bracket on 432.
Both bands seem to be well matched.

I worked a few more stations on 432, than on 222, but the totals were
pretty close. My 222 MHz only score was  31844, while the 432 score came
in at 16961. If you take out the 2X multiplier for 222 MHz, the 432
score was actually better by about 1000 points. The VA3IKE QSO on 432
counted for 964 points, so that was the difference .  VA3IKE and I tried
on Q65B-30 and I was quite surprised to actually hear his audio tones in
my headphones. I could have worked him on CW. After working Ike, I tried
some tropo with W7JW but we heard nothing. W7JW is a bit farther than
VA3IKE.  My calculation for the distance scoring came up with 48,805 for
104 contacts on the two bands 222 & 432.

I thought activity was quite poor compared to last year, and the condx
were nowhere near as good. I tried a few MS tries with K9MRI and W7JW.
We were continually frustrated with "one way" meteors. One station heard
lots. The other...nothing. Still, it was fun trying.   I quit early on
Saturday evening at about 8 PM and got a late start on Sunday just
before 9 AM local time. My heart was not in it. The chainsaw accident
did not help things either.  I am basically a one armed operator until
it heals up.

Your Lithuanian Good Buddy Al, WA1T came over last night to the shack
and brought some dinner from his XYL. She is a saint and he also had a
few nice IPAs so Al and I worked on the computer issues and had dinner
and drank the beer.  I have a  microwave oven in the shack so we could
heat up the food just great. We thought about doing a multi op for the
evening, but the shack here is now set up for single op only, so Al had
to watch. We got in a lot of talking and laughing though.  Despite the
awful wx and rather poor conndx, I still had a ball.

Dave K1WHS


On 8/4/2024 5:55 PM, Ron Klimas WZ1V wrote:
ARRL 222 MHz and Up Distance Contest - 2024

Call: WZ1V
Operator(s): WZ1V
Station: WZ1V
Class: Single Op HP
QTH: FN31rh
Operating Time (hrs): 10

Summary:
Band QSOs
------------
222: 52
432: 56
902:
1.2: 22
2.3:
3.4:
5.7:
10G:
24G:
------------
Total: 130 Total Score = 44,537

Club: North East Weak Signal Group

Team: Really Weak Signal Group

Comments:
Had to QRT most of Saturday night due to thunderstorms.
Sunday had calmer WX but activity tanked after 11 AM.
There was a small rally toward the end of the contest.
Poor to flat conditions, best DX was on 222 to EN92,
on 1296 made it out to FN12, FN24, and FN44.
Breakdowns 52/19 on 222, 56/19 on 432, 22/11 on 1296.
Thanks for the QSOs.

73 Ron WZ1V

Posted using 3830 Score Submittal Forms at: http://www.3830scores.com/

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