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Re: [VHFcontesting] A racing analogy

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] A racing analogy
From: jimk8mr@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:17:37 -0500
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 If you're into analogies, here is a better one:

Suppose that on a given weekend , racing enthusiasts everywhere in the USA and 
Canada had a race where:

1. You raced for as many or as few hours in the given 32 hour time frame as you 
chose:

2. Raced on whatever sort of track or road you chose;

3.  Used whatever car you chose;

4. In the end were ranked based on how many miles you had driven during those 
32 hours;

5. Had little or no interest in using tactics to slow down or impede other 
racers, and in fact got rewards for each time you helped them out;

6. Although some competitors would chose to use somewhat similar cars and 
tracks, there would be no adjustments for different weather, differences in 
cars, different road conditions etc.


7. As your prize had your name listed at the top of a list and got a 
certificate from the national racing organization. No money, commercial 
endorsement deals, no hot women, etc.


In short you go out for the fun of seeing how fast and how long you could 
drive, and for what interesting experiences you would have while doing so.  So 
why would you get so bent out of shape if some people off in some remote desert 
built up a special track and special cars to go incredible distances over that 
time period. Wouldn't you just ignore them and go on having whatever fun you 
have doing your thing, wherever you are?


73  -  Jim  K8MR

 



-----Original Message-----
From: Duane - N9DG <n9dg@yahoo.com>=0
ATo: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Sent: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:13 am
Subject: [VHFcontesting] A racing analogy










Perhaps an analogy will illustrate the “problem” of grid circling…

How do you suppose all the participants in, and spectators of, the Indy 500 
would feel if a small group of 8 cars ran a race at the same time as the Indy 
500 on another race track? And then this group of 8 just simply went round and 
round the track for 200 laps without actually "competing" with each other at 
all. And to also not have to be "bothered" with actually interacting with 
anyone 
else who is in the race over at the Indy Motor Speedway. Meanwhile over at the 
Indy Motor Speedway all the other drivers are truly competing with each other 
for first place. And then when the race at the Indy Motor Speedway ends those 8 
cars who ran the (separate) race over on the other track just come waltzing on 
over the winners circle of the Indy Motor Speedway for a nice big bottle of 
cold 
milk.

Do you think that could ever happen? Do you think that the sponsors, the other 
drivers, or the spectators would ever put up with it? So why would a contest 
sponsor want to allow the equivalent such a thing to occur in a VHF contest?

If grid circlers really want to have their “fun”, then give them their own 
completely separate contest to do so on some other weekend. After all they 
provide almost no Q’s whatsoever to any of the oth
er participants in the 
contest, their operations are almost entirely confined within their own 
orchestrated group. And therefore given that, the rest of the VHF contest 
participants would not miss them anyhow.

It will be an extremely sad day indeed when all of VHF contesting devolves into 
a collection of small groups who are all planning and using exclusionary to 
anyone outside of their own little group strategies and tactics in order to 
win. 
And I do have to wonder how many have already given up on roving just because 
what is going on with this circling stuff already?

So, given the all the problems surrounding roving and grid circling I have 
reach 
a point of agreeing with those that just want to ban all rover to rover Q’s 
completely. And perhaps taking it to an even more extreme step, just ban roving 
period. Extremely harsh I know, but I think those rovers who would really want 
to continue participating in VHF contests would simply transition to building 
the best station that they can for operating at a single portable location for 
the entire contest. But they'll at least have the benefit and satisfaction of 
knowing that their successes will more or less match their fixed station peers 
for the region of the country where they operate.

Duane
N9DG




      
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