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101. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid(Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:44:39 -0700
W6WRT comments interspersed below: I don't see an emoticon but I assume that was an attempt at humor. There never was such a requirement. Brand new Chinese 8877s are $550, but your point is taken. I'
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00236.html (12,192 bytes)

102. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:48:19 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: Are you talking control grid or screen grid? My understanding is that the control grid sees the same drive power whether grounded grid or grounded cathode operation. Incorrec
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00249.html (8,510 bytes)

103. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:52:30 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: GG can be any class. Which class it is depends on the bias voltage and drive level. 73, Bill W6WRT _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@cont
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00252.html (8,787 bytes)

104. Re: [Amps] Grounded grid 8122's (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:38:08 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: GG does not require any more grid dissipation than grounded cathode. GG does require more driving power, but not for the grid. The extra driving power "modulates" the cathode
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00259.html (7,980 bytes)

105. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:41:08 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: Different issue. As you go from class A to AB1 to AB2 to B to C, both power output and efficiency increase. That's true for all tubes, not just the 4CX250. 73, Bill W6WRT ___
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00261.html (9,218 bytes)

106. Re: [Amps] cathode driven/grounded grid magic revealed. (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:00:01 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: That is true only if the tube is driven into the positive grid region. If the drive is kept below that point, the load is constant. In fact, the load is infinite - no drive p
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00269.html (8,785 bytes)

107. Re: [Amps] Grounded grid 8122's (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:13:34 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: The difference is mostly semantics. A grounded grid amp where the grid(s) are connected directly to ground is definitely cathode driven. By comparison, a cathode driven amp m
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00270.html (8,069 bytes)

108. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:14:48 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: Please explain why not. 73, Bill W6WRT _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amps
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00271.html (8,745 bytes)

109. Re: [Amps] inexpensive HV fuse (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:56:03 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: Yes but..... That approach allows all the energy from the filter caps to be dumped into the arc. We're trying to avoid that. 73, Bill W6WRT __________________________________
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00281.html (7,397 bytes)

110. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:59:10 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: More like shutting the gate after the first horse has gone through and preventing the rest of the herd from escaping. Having said that however, I am not a believer in the use
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00282.html (9,984 bytes)

111. Re: [Amps] Old Transmitter designs (was cathode driven/grounded grid magic revealed.) (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:00:28 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: Very poor advice. A far better method is to provide a resonant circuit in the input to provide a "flywheel" effect. And as I said before, even that is only needed if the tube
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00286.html (7,882 bytes)

112. Re: [Amps] inexpensive HV fuse (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:07:24 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: The filter caps have two jobs: One is to filter out hum from the rectified DC and the other is to supply large amounts of energy during peak demand from the tube)s). I would
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00289.html (8,672 bytes)

113. Re: [Amps] Grounded grid 8122's (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:16:35 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: I guess we will have to agree to disagree. In both circuits the drive is applied to the cathode (or filament). As long as the grid and screen are maintained at a steady DC le
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00290.html (8,736 bytes)

114. Re: [Amps] inexpensive HV fuse (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:46:33 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: Apparently we are talking about different applications. The original discussion was how to avoid damage when the B+ arcs. In your post above you say " the filter cap(s) stay
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00295.html (8,375 bytes)

115. Re: [Amps] Old Transmitter designs (was cathode driven/groundedgrid magic revealed.) (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:23:19 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: If Bill Orr is recommending a resistor to "swamp out" load variations over the RF cycle in a tube's input circuit, then yes, I disagree. A resistor can not store energy durin
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00299.html (8,762 bytes)

116. Re: [Amps] inexpensive HV fuse (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:37:38 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: Nothing wrong with shutting off the PS quickly, but if you leave the filter caps charged, any damage from the B+ arc will involve much more energy than if the B+ line were op
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00303.html (8,786 bytes)

117. Re: [Amps] inexpensive HV fuse (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:16:29 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: Ok, that should do it. 73, Bill W6WRT _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amps
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00314.html (8,687 bytes)

118. Re: [Amps] Old Transmitter designs (was cathode driven/groundedgrid magic revealed.) (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:21:17 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: All good points, especially the one quoted above. When I worked at Tektronix we tried to avoid the term "ground" and used "common" instead. In many circuits the common was el
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00315.html (9,296 bytes)

119. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:23:21 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: By using only the ALC in the transceiver, this is what you accomplish. That's how I do it. 73, Bill W6WRT _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Am
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00316.html (10,049 bytes)

120. Re: [Amps] grounded grid 813 x4 (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:08:34 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: I'm curious - what would be the reason for using resistors and decoupling caps? 73, Bill W6WRT _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesti
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00337.html (7,194 bytes)


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