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61. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: rt_clay@bellsouth.net
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:36:06 +0000
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^ Hold on there, it is relevant...a local skimmer isn't an outside source. Tor N4OGW CQ-Contest mailing list CQ-Contest@contesting.com http://lists.cont
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00346.html (10,055 bytes)

62. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Stan Stockton" <k5go@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:29:09 -0500
^^^^^^^^^^^ Hold on there, it is relevant...a local skimmer isn't an outside source. Tor N4OGW Tor: The difference is only relevant if you judge it based on something someone wrote in an e-mail inst
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00347.html (11,051 bytes)

63. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: w5ov@w5ov.com
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:29:20 -0400 (EDT)
Tor, What you describe is SO2R - not assistance. If you listen to 10 receivers yourself, you are doing it. 73, Bob W5OV _______________________________________________ CQ-Contest mailing list CQ-Cont
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00351.html (10,823 bytes)

64. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "K0HB " <k-zero-hb@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:15:02 -0500
Of course it is, Joe. Memory keyers and logging programs (book-keepers) do not search out and identify stations for you to work which are outside your audio passband. 73, de Hans, K0HB Just a boy an
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00352.html (9,168 bytes)

65. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:33:02 -0400
You're correct there is no technological difference between assisted and unassisted - the difference it that another PERSON is providing the information in the assisted class. Where the information
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00353.html (13,172 bytes)

66. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:43:23 -0400
No, they don't do the same thing but ALL TECHNOLOGY is assistance in one form or another. Technology assists he operator to be more efficient - whether it is to listen on more than one place (SOnR),
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00354.html (12,071 bytes)

67. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Hal Offutt" <hal@japancorporateresearch.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:54:48 -0400
A lot of common sense there from N1UR. I have also been very surprised to learn that there are people operating contests with CW decoders. I have seen no real data so I can't judge just how common th
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00356.html (13,151 bytes)

68. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "K0HB " <k-zero-hb@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:17:57 -0500
In the posts I've read (most of them) I haven't seen any "anti-technology" bias at all Joe. I certainly agree that "skimmer" is cool technology and will likely have a positive effect on Amateur Radi
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00357.html (9,392 bytes)

69. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Sandy Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:26:18 -0500
Hi Tor, Sorry to disagree, but I think you're wrong. If you park a second receiver on another band and listen to it, YOU are doing the listening. Anytime YOU are doing something, it's not assistance.
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00359.html (10,861 bytes)

70. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: rt_clay@bellsouth.net
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:29:10 +0000
  Well, yes, that rule is vague. That's part of  the whole debate! And yours is not the only interpretation. You can equally well argue that an extra bandscope parked on an empty band is "DX alerting
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00360.html (10,920 bytes)

71. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Paul J. Piercey" <p.piercey@nl.rogers.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:20:27 -0500
So... does that mean that guys who use 1 radio don't have to compete in the same category against guys who use 2 radios? Ya can't have it both ways. That being said, I fully agree that a networked C
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00361.html (12,445 bytes)

72. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Paul J. Piercey" <p.piercey@nl.rogers.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:20:56 -0500
I fully agree with you Joe. To a point... Unfortunately, now that the Skimmer technology has progressed to a "networked" stage, I could not, in all good conscience, differentiate it from the cluster.
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00362.html (25,757 bytes)

73. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:23:53 -0400
CW Skimmer is a new application of existing technology (CW decoders, broadband receivers, panadapters, additional receiver, etc.) that allows an operator to be more productive IN ANOTHER AREA of the
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00363.html (10,198 bytes)

74. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Robert Chudek - K0RC" <k0rc@pclink.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:54:25 -0500
Your logging computer can operate EITHER "stand alone" within your sphere of influence OR be connected to a network of computers that exchange information outside your sphere of influence. Whether a
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00364.html (28,934 bytes)

75. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Richard DiDonna NN3W" <nn3w@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:46:43 -0400
I think an argument needs to be considered that while technologically within reach and feasible, some technological items are best left out of the rules. For SO unassisted, I tend to think that Skimm
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00366.html (13,144 bytes)

76. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: Scott Robbins <w4pa@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:59:51 -0700 (PDT)
Wrong again, Joe. The CQWW rules, in fact, have already addressed this. -- 1. Single Operator High: Those stations at which one person performs all of the operating, logging, and spotting functions.
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00367.html (11,232 bytes)

77. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:44:05 -0700
With all due respect, I don't believe that is true. Skimmer time-shifts. All of the other things you mention require that the operator actually be in the chair to take advantage of them. Skimmer, eve
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00369.html (9,971 bytes)

78. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Randy Thompson" <k5zd@charter.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:03:03 -0500
Joe, You seem to have a real passion for the skimmer and technology. Also a real opinion on how Skimmer should be allowed for single ops. Since I don't recall working you in any CW contests, you are
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00372.html (12,515 bytes)

79. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: k3bu@optimum.net
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:56:32 +0000 (GMT)
Exactemundo! It is another person or another skimmer, swimmer etc. outside of one's shack that constitutes assistance whatever. Lets look at the "crime" that skimmer would bring: 1. Enhances contest
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00374.html (12,570 bytes)

80. [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Jamie Dupree" <ns3t@arrl.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:09:55 -0400
Well, I had no idea that writing one update story about forging new rules to deal with the Skimmer would prompt such a firestorm of comments this week..... Now as for those ops who read this reflecto
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00375.html (7,837 bytes)


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