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81. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Sandy Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:09:50 -0500
C'mon Joe, it's completely ludicrous to say Skimmer breaks no new ground. Since when has there been anything, other than packet, that tells you who is on and where they are. All the other examples yo
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00378.html (11,596 bytes)

82. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Sandy Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:10:38 -0500
Hi Joe, So if Garry Kasparov is playing a chess match and has a feed from Deep Blue in his ear, offering analyses of various moves and suggestions of his next move, his opponent should just accept th
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00379.html (16,860 bytes)

83. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: Scott Robbins <w4pa@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:10:07 -0700 (PDT)
I'm sorry -- I don't parse. The CQ WW rules are written in plain English. DX alerting assistance of any kind is not permitted. It says OF ANY KIND. Thank you -- you proved my point. The computer is n
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00380.html (11,418 bytes)

84. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Ed Muns" <w0yk@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:52:16 -0700
History files don't relieve the operator from COPYING the exchange. They MAY relieve the operator from TYPING the exchange if what he copies matches what the history file pre-fills for him. 73, Ed -
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00381.html (10,265 bytes)

85. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:34:49 -0400
Scott, You have all the "words" but you are not parsing them correctly. The computer is not a person, therefore skimmer (so long as it is local) fits entirely within the single operator category sinc
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00383.html (11,384 bytes)

86. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:14:55 -0400
The only thing Skimmer does is present the data in a different format. It's certainly not the first CW decoder - they've been around for 15 maybe 20 years. It's certainly not the first panadapter -
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00384.html (14,265 bytes)

87. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:30:30 -0400
Thanks, Paul, for giving me the opportunity to clarify this point. It seems obvious to me that if you are using skimmer spots that have been collected by someone else, in real time, then you are assi
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00386.html (12,009 bytes)

88. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:38:55 -0400
Further to the same point - when the CQWW rule was written, I think we can be confident that nobody considered the arrival of Skimmer technology on the contesting scene. In the early 20th century, i
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00387.html (11,181 bytes)

89. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:20:56 -0700
I wasn't referring to cheating during a claimed off time. Even during an "on time", Skimmer listens for me and lines up stations for me to work even if I'm not at the rig. If I were running SO2R it e
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00397.html (10,411 bytes)

90. [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:47:48 -0700 (PDT)
Perhaps it is time to consider the need for the Assisted category all together in respect to technology. Ham Radio, and contesting in particular, has always been a hobby focused on making the most ou
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00398.html (7,849 bytes)

91. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: w5ov@w5ov.com
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:48:16 -0400 (EDT)
(standard SO2R) that clearly gives me "DX alerting assistance" of another kind as well. Uh, no it does not. You have to copy the callsigns of the stations on the other band. 73, Bob W5OV ____________
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00399.html (10,187 bytes)

92. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: Zack Widup <w9sz@prairienet.org>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:10:19 -0500 (CDT)
So Skimmer works the stations for you? I haven't used it yet. 73, Zack W9SZ _______________________________________________ CQ-Contest mailing list CQ-Contest@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.c
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00402.html (10,261 bytes)

93. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:42:17 -0700
To the degree that this is true, so might a receiver; it's only necessary that the receiver output be stored. yet no one is seriously suggesting that a receiver should be disallowed. ________________
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00403.html (11,257 bytes)

94. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Dick-w0raa" <w0raa@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:20:51 -0600
This whole thread is getting quite rediculous. Let's move on to something more productive. How's that for a novel idea? Dick W0RAA _______________________________________________ CQ-Contest mailing l
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00405.html (19,524 bytes)

95. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Osborne" <w7why@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:12:09 -0700
Unless, of course, the guy using Skimmer can only copy 10 WPM and the Skimmer is showing stations sending 35 WPM that there is no way he could ever copy by ear. That is definately assistance. 73 Tom
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00406.html (8,990 bytes)

96. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: Julius Fazekas <phriendly1@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:23:28 -0700 (PDT)
Not a very good analogy Pete... Using this logic, straight keys, bugs, paddles would all be banned, just like horses and pedestrians from travel on the highway. 73, Julius http://lists.contesting.com
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00409.html (10,912 bytes)

97. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "K0HB " <k-zero-hb@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:10:07 -0500
Neither is anyone suggesting that Skimmer be disallowed. The suggestion is that single ops should not have to compete with skimmer-equipped stations. 73, de Hans, K0HB Just a boy and his radio. -- _
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00411.html (8,998 bytes)

98. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: "Stan Stockton" <k5go@cox.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:53:32 -0500
Now we have something to talk about.... How do you propose eliminating that next, rather easy step up from Skimmer - Robotic Automated QSO machines? It is refreshing to find that seemingly someone wh
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00414.html (8,737 bytes)

99. Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:30:42 -0700
That is not an equivalence. Such a practice would not time-shift the function of the operator ... he/she would still have to spend time listening to the stored output to make use of it. With Skimmer,
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00415.html (12,354 bytes)

100. [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer (score: 1)
Author: Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:34:33 -0700 (PDT)
Stan, I believe many have already made a compelling case that there is no such a thing as unassisted anymore- we all use some sort of automation to achieve competitive advantage- keyers, computer log
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-04/msg00416.html (9,866 bytes)


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