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1. [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: art N4UC <n4uc@hotmail.com>; Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 22:45:05 -0500; After getting my 565 Orion back from the factory earlier this year, I've noticed that I only get about 50W out on 10M, and 80W on 15. All other bands are over 100W out. I can't say for sure what the; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00126.html (6,872 bytes)
2. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>; Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 23:08:45 -0500; I never saw that much difference in my 566. However, 10, 12, and 15 m are all about 90 W while the other bands are right at 100 W. this is with a well-regulated supply volt has of 14.9 V. I found tha; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00127.html (8,703 bytes)
3. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 10:36:42 +0200; Art, are you measuring with a dummy load attached or with an antenna? What power supply are you using, and what are its key up and key down voltages at the transceiver back panel? 73 Rick, DJ0IP Afte; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00131.html (8,377 bytes)
4. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: art N4UC <n4uc@hotmail.com>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 08:26:01 -0500; Hi Rick. RF power measurements are taken both into dummy load and well matched antenna (SWR=1.2) . Power supply voltage at back panel connector is 13.95V key-up, and 12.85 key-down on 10, 12.75 on al; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00136.html (10,100 bytes)
5. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:22:55 -0500; With the info reported, the voltage drop as indicated at the back of the radio seems a bit excessive to me. If not done so, I'd look at using at least #12 AWG between the PS and the radio terminals.; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00140.html (14,075 bytes)
6. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:03:35 +0200; I think the first thing to do is to check the watt meter. Either borrow another watt meter and compare, or try a different transceiver. If a second transceiver reads the same or similar, then it's th; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00142.html (11,497 bytes)
7. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:15:05 -0400; with a well-regulated supply volt has of 14.9 V. I found that at 13.8 V, output on 10, 12 and 15 m was lower and more variable. it drew a bit more current on the 10 and 12 m bands, so make sure the; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00143.html (8,791 bytes)
8. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:35:12 -0400; First thing I would do is check the voltage sag, and I would worry if you observe ANY substantial voltage sag. I heartily second Bob's (K4TAX) comments. Here is MY checklist developed after having a; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00144.html (10,154 bytes)
9. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:42:32 +0200; All of the suggestions for improving the voltage drop are good, but they are not addressing the problem. If the voltage swing were the cause of the problem, he would have low output on all bands. His; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00146.html (8,298 bytes)
10. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 12:55:31 -0400; I agree the problem may be inside the rig, even though a "symptom" is voltage sag at the power supply. But I disagree the problem is not a voltage swing, and disagree it would affect all bands equall; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00150.html (9,813 bytes)
11. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: Glenn AE0Q <gm5bkc@gmail.com>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:32:49 -0500; I have to say that I was surprised to see a two pin power connector on the 565 that I got last winter. It is the same power connector that my Argo 556 and Scout 555 both use (5w and 50w radios). Kenw; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00166.html (8,632 bytes)
12. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: art N4UC <n4uc@hotmail.com>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 18:39:09 -0500; Thanks Bob. I feel pretty good about the power distribution I have going. It's about 2 feet of #12 zip cord fresh off the reel from Wireman here at the Huntsville Hamfest, so it must be good! It's ki; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00167.html (16,871 bytes)
13. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 21:19:01 -0400; Kenwood has gone over to 4 pin power connectors on most recent models. I guess there is nothing sacred. -- K8JHR -- Kenwood radios have been using a 6 pin power connector for decades. _______________; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00168.html (9,167 bytes)
14. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: art N4UC <n4uc@hotmail.com>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 20:54:50 -0500; The only Kenwood HF radios I've ever owned (930 and 940) just had AC inputs, no DC. But I do like what they do with the vhf/uhf mobile rigs with the pigtail and a connector on the end. ______________; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00171.html (9,643 bytes)
15. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 22:00:23 -0400; For all the high technology that goes into these radios, it seems, to me at least, they have done precious little development on the power supply side. Not that you can improve on two wires, red and; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00172.html (9,559 bytes)
16. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: art N4UC <n4uc@hotmail.com>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 21:15:19 -0500; You are correct. It's because having the most reliable connectors on a radio is not nearly as powerful a marketing tool as a flashy display with a gazillion features that nobody actually needs. But s; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00173.html (10,278 bytes)
17. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: Rick W <ve7tk@yahoo.ca>; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 21:53:03 -0700 (PDT); As has been discussed by others, I too noticed the Orion power plug was the same as my Argo V. I noticed that the 100 watt TEN-TEC Eagle uses Power Pole connectors and felt that if it was good enou; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00174.html (10,355 bytes)
18. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>; Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 08:40:19 +0200; Rick, the Orion was designed LONG before the Eagle was. "timing" 73 Rick, DJ0IP As has been discussed by others, I too noticed the Orion power plug was the same as my Argo V. I noticed that the 100; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00176.html (11,078 bytes)
19. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>; Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 20:57:58 -0500; Although one would initially think so, the radio typically draws different amounts of current on different bands. Usually 75M & 40M are the least at around 18 amps while 12M & 10M are the greatest cu; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00192.html (10,168 bytes)
20. Re: [TenTec] Orion Power Out (score: 1): Author: art N4UC <n4uc@hotmail.com>; Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 21:33:33 -0500; If there is a procedure for doing a gain alignment BY BAND, I'd be very interested in seeing it. I would like to be able to "normalize" the RF output at 100W on all bands if possible. 73 Art, N4UC __; /archives//html/TenTec/2013-10/msg00197.html (11,129 bytes)

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