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1. [TowerTalk] 600 Ohm Line (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:46:01 -0500
What is coming into the house on a 600 ohm balanced pair? An RF transmission line I would believe. A telco line or audio line I would not. The military surplus field telephone transmission line bein
/archives//html/Towertalk/2004-07/msg00906.html (9,577 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] 600 Ohm Line (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:05:07 -0700
What is coming into the house on a 600 ohm balanced pair? An RF transmission line I would believe. A telco line or audio line I would not. The military surplus field telephone transmission line bein
/archives//html/Towertalk/2004-07/msg00914.html (11,055 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] 600 Ohm Line (score: 1)
Author: "Rick Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:26:12 -0700 (PDT)
Turns out you can't consider the phone line as a lumped component even to get audio to the CO; moreover, the characteristic impedance is complex. This is why the phone company has to use loading coil
/archives//html/Towertalk/2004-07/msg00916.html (9,250 bytes)

4. RE: [TowerTalk] 600 Ohm Line (score: 1)
Author: "Daron J. Wilson" <daron@wilson.org>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:23:03 -0700
Actually....the characteristic impedance of the phone wire is more like 100 ohms. The overall circuit impedance should be at about 600ohms when terminated and drawing current. The reason the loading
/archives//html/Towertalk/2004-07/msg00919.html (10,815 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] 600 Ohm Line (score: 1)
Author: "EUGENE SMAR" <ersmar@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:02:31 +0100
TT: Rick is correct. The copper twisted-pair (TP) is considered a distributed reactance element. The loading coils are actually series inductors (remember the 88 mH toroidal coils we all used in the
/archives//html/Towertalk/2004-07/msg00922.html (10,589 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] 600 Ohm Line (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:46:08 -0500
They go way back before the 70's, but they are LUMPED elements, and they are compensating in a LUMPED model. What's the old line -- "if you remember the 70's you weren't there?" I haven't worked in t
/archives//html/Towertalk/2004-07/msg00925.html (11,172 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] 600 Ohm Line (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:15:34 -0700
I haven't worked in that part of the industry, but common sense and Transmission Lines 101 says that those modems had better be treating that line as the 60-100 ohm line that it really is of they are
/archives//html/Towertalk/2004-07/msg00928.html (10,614 bytes)

8. Re: [TowerTalk] 600 Ohm Line (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:00:39 -0500
Yes. That's the modern equivalent of the passive equalizers both in the line driver and line receiver. But the modem MUST be doing its best to match the Z of the line -- the closer it gets to that id
/archives//html/Towertalk/2004-07/msg00931.html (10,816 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] 600 Ohm Line (score: 1)
Author: "Gene Smar" <ersmar@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:31:05 -0400
Jim et al: My comments embedded below. 73 de Gene Smar AD3F distributed are Agreed that the loading coils are lumped elements, but I was referring to the long TP - correctly modeled as distributed el
/archives//html/Towertalk/2004-07/msg00934.html (10,359 bytes)


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