- 1. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: UpTheTower@aol.com (UpTheTower@aol.com)
- Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:42:30 EST
- Being a "new guy" on this list makes me wonder what am I getting into - Some of you guys have got to be PHD's in electronics or something from Star Wars. This basic thread/question is of great intere
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00157.html (9,238 bytes)
- 2. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: W8JI@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
- Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:31:52 -0500
- Hi Mel, Most of the benefits of quads are far over-rated. They do not, contrary to folklore, have "2 dB gain over a yagi". A single loop has the maximum advantage over a dipole, and even that idea c
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00160.html (10,207 bytes)
- 3. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: i4jmy@iol.it (i4jmy@iol.it)
- Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:51:02 +0100
- Quad are mechanically prone to give troubles, and ther installation is more complex and time consuming since they are 3D antennas. Expecially with 20 meters, or worse with 40m elements, the quad boom
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00161.html (11,094 bytes)
- 4. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: alsopb@gloryroad.net (alsopb)
- Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 15:24:30 +0000
- Mauri, What you say is true -- unless you have a HAZER tower. At least it is for 20-10 m quads. Alternatively an EZ-way tilt over tower makes the job easy too. Unfortunately, EZ-way towers haven't be
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00162.html (13,042 bytes)
- 5. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: W8JI@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
- Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:27:52 -0500
- Hi Dave, I just read this from W4LC who hit the nail on the head: Quarter wave 2-element (driven & reflector) dipoles, stacked a quarter-wave apart and fed in-phase? Remember they are only quieter in
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00179.html (11,066 bytes)
- 6. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: i4jmy@iol.it (i4jmy@iol.it)
- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:20:36 +0100
- if I'm convinced the wrong Quad gain issue got enforced by a number of rough comparison between 2/3 element tribanders yagi and tribanders quad, expecially if performed on 20m. Since most manufactur
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00189.html (10,121 bytes)
- 7. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: n1lo@hotmail.com (Mark .)
- Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:34:29 -0500
- I went through quite a bit of debate trying to decide which type of antenna would crown my tower. I can't directly address the original question about ice survivability with my own experience. Others
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00193.html (10,832 bytes)
- 8. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: K3BU@aol.com (K3BU@aol.com)
- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:33:03 EST
- (Somebody has to defend "poor" quads :-) I wouldn't be so sure! It appears that some of the "new wisdom" is coming from the software modeling "facts." I just quickly modeled single Quad 1/4 wave/side
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00196.html (12,269 bytes)
- 9. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: wesandlinda@triconet.org (Wes (N7WS) and Linda)
- Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:42:56 -0700
- Not taking side here, just an observation [snip] I just used Eznec 3 to compare two models. 1) 10 MHz dipole in free space. AWG 12 copper wire, 31 segments, length +/- .242628 wavelengths. Zin = 72.8
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00197.html (9,382 bytes)
- 10. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: Zoltan.Pitman@libertel.nl (Zoltan.Pitman@libertel.nl)
- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:54:57 +0100
- Your "Razors" are just like the Loch Ness Monster - Lots of talk about some faded photos but not a single word of PROPER description... Zoli HA1AG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/towert
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00209.html (8,850 bytes)
- 11. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:59:26 -0800
- The one advantage of the Quad vs Yagi that no one has mentioned is turning radius. When I was going to school, our club station was saddled with a small tower stuck between two flag poles. The only w
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00210.html (14,629 bytes)
- 12. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: K3BU@aol.com (K3BU@aol.com)
- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:56:59 EST
- Those who nicely ask about them, request information and I don't mind to share the information with them, can have it for free, against nondisclosure agreement (and many have). Razors are not public
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00222.html (9,335 bytes)
- 13. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: jreisert@jlc.net (Joe Reisert)
- Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 18:59:46 -0500
- Tom, 73, Joe, W1JR -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/towertalk Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrative requests: towertalk-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-towertalk@con
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00225.html (13,085 bytes)
- 14. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
- Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 03:22:27 -0800
- Hi Yuri, At the risk of sounding like a scientist, I am curious to know if you have ever sucummbed to temptation and modeled your razors with EZNEC or AO. You could share these results with the rest
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00230.html (10,569 bytes)
- 15. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: W8JI@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
- Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 07:35:58 -0500
- Hi Joe Amazing how the same antenna can produce two different results, depending on who makes the test. It's my understanding a large part of Lindsey's error in giving the quad 2 dB gain over a simil
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00238.html (9,174 bytes)
- 16. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: n4kg@juno.com (n4kg@juno.com)
- Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 07:28:22 -0600
- Yuri, I find two of your claims very misleading or questionable. 1 - You stated your Razor beams had 10 dB more gain than a 6L Yagi. This seems preposterous. I expect your razor beams are good antenn
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00239.html (10,377 bytes)
- 17. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: DAVED@ctilidar.com (Dave D'Epagnier)
- Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 08:54:09 -0700
- [Dave D'Epagnier] Well it appears to me that a 2 element Quad does have about a 1dB gain advantage over a 2 element Yagi. Look at Cebik's analysis in the two articles "What Can We Expect From a 2-El
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00245.html (9,272 bytes)
- 18. [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi (score: 1)
- Author: n4kg@juno.com (n4kg@juno.com)
- Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 07:11:57 -0600
- N4KG response below. Of course the USA scores were way behind. They get ZERO points for other USA contacts and you get TWO points for every USA contact. How many VE's were active vs. how many USA? We
- /archives//html/Towertalk/2001-02/msg00267.html (10,143 bytes)
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