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1. [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Jarvis" <jimjarvis@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:56:10 -0500
1) I think you'll find that all unibody constructed cars have serious anti-corrosion coatings applied, after welding. Bolted-on components are almost never electrically connected, unless there is a r
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00596.html (8,867 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:45:34 -0600
itself is usually floating within the housing. That's not necessarily a bad thing -- IF there are two wires connecting the mic element to the transceiver, one going to the "so-called audio ground," a
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00599.html (10,853 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Frank Donovan" <donovanf@erols.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:50:44 -0500
Hi Jim, Here's another one to add to your list: Discard all forms of "braided" cable. Braid is something a girl does to her hair. It is not a good RF ground and it's a terrible conductor for lightnin
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00600.html (11,157 bytes)

4. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Frank Donovan" <donovanf@erols.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:34:46 -0500
Here's a clarification, pointed out by an attentive towertalkian: My previous e-mail was not intended to refer to cables that use a braided shield under a jacket. A tight jacket compresses the braid
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00601.html (8,486 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:25:00 -0500
Fascinating, Frank. I tried going back up the URL tree, and eventually found myself at a page for Presbyterian gun owners! However, beginning at least with /ground2.htm there's a lot of good stuff th
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00602.html (13,594 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:04:57 -0800
from I'll speculate.. Aluminum is a fine conductor, and cheaper (for a given current carrying capacity) than copper. The notorious problems with aluminum wiring in houses are more to do with installa
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00609.html (11,854 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: Gary Schafer <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:18:10 -0500
I wouldn't put too much credence in the site that you reference. That guy spouts out a lot of mis-information about lightning protection. Most of the references are ok but some are suspect. I have ha
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00612.html (12,006 bytes)

8. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Alan NV8A (ex. AB2OS)" <nv8a@att.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:28:29 -0500
But note that special fittings are required for connecting aluminum conductors to copper ones to avoid corrosion resulting from electrolytic action. Alan NV8A On 01/16/05 01:04 pm Jim Lux tossed the
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00613.html (11,522 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:54:08 -0800
This gets back to "proper installation". Aluminum cables are used outdoors in all sorts of applications without problems, over very long time spans (think HV electrical transmission lines...) with v
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00614.html (10,229 bytes)

10. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:58:02 -0800
You bet... and I'll bet there's a bunch of specialized aluminum cable fittings for lightning protection systems, along with conductive glop and protective glop, special crimp ferrules, a nifty $200 F
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00615.html (9,934 bytes)

11. RE: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Keith Dutson" <kjdutson@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:59:37 -0600
of any utility above 2 MHz. OK. So where is the proof? I am thinking any writing you can find is based on the use of braid that of poor manufacture or has corroded, or both. Poor or corroded braid c
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00621.html (11,378 bytes)

12. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: Bill Aycock <baycock@direcway.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:50:29 -0600
In my former existence as a Rocket Engineer, I worked on a 1000 acre plant site that had many buildings all with lightning protection per MIL spec (Ordnance corp) In 38 years, the only lightning dama
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00622.html (16,045 bytes)

13. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Frank Donovan" <donovanf@erols.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:28:28 -0500
Keith, Braid acts exactly as you suggest only when the many small diameter conductors are under sufficient pressure to cause the RF currents to flow on the surface of the braid. This is the case with
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00624.html (14,144 bytes)

14. RE: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Keith Dutson" <kjdutson@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:19:15 -0600
Frank, I understand your beliefs, and your explanation sounds reasonable, other than the pressure of the jacket on braid part. The pressure would only be needed if the braid were loosely formed aroun
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00629.html (15,756 bytes)

15. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:25:41 -0500
station ground other publications Harger. I found by using braided Sometimes we can't easily find things that are commonly known or understood in engineering circles. Most engineers and many hobbyis
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00633.html (11,420 bytes)

16. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: Gary Schafer <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:28:03 -0500
Tom Rauch wrote: In HF power amplifiers, I have found a good general rule of thumb is this: At 30 MHz is the clean braid from RG-8 cable has about the same current carrying capacity as #14 or 16 tinn
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00636.html (9,768 bytes)

17. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "K8RI on Tower Talk" <k8ri-tower@charter.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:38:15 -0500
In HF power amplifiers, I have found a good general rule of thumb is this: At 30 MHz is the clean braid from RG-8 cable has about the same current carrying capacity as #14 or 16 tinned solid buss wir
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00641.html (9,802 bytes)

18. RE: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Keith Dutson" <kjdutson@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:13:08 -0600
Now this is the most plausible explanation seen so far. Basically it seems that there is no valid reason to have measured evidence if one follows sound engineering practice. Makes perfect sense to me
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00642.html (13,186 bytes)

19. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: Jim Smith <jimsmith@shaw.ca>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:07:37 -0800
Pete, Try http://members.cox.net/pc-usa/station/ground0.htm 73, Jim Smith VE7FO Pete Smith wrote: Fascinating, Frank. I tried going back up the URL tree, and eventually found myself at a page for Pre
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00643.html (10,551 bytes)

20. Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground' (score: 1)
Author: "Roger Halstead" <aviation@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:43:36 -0500
<snip> In HF power amplifiers, I have found a good general rule of thumb is this: At 30 MHz is the clean braid from RG-8 cable has about the same current carrying capacity as #14 or 16 tinned solid b
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-01/msg00650.html (9,848 bytes)


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