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1. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 17:30:40 -0800
Agree with N6RK. My T has 8x 125 elevated radials (b4 N6LF work) but is in trees, with the significant losses and is hard to maintain, climbers are unobtanium currently. I am working on a self suppor
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00026.html (9,313 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Ignacy Misztal <no9e@arrl.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:04:08 +0100
On4un writes that many stations find elevated radials to be a few db below ground radials. I believe this is ground dependent. At my new QTH, initially I set up inv U about 80 ft high with 4 125 ft e
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00036.html (10,476 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:16:28 -0800
N6BT, who has done a LOT of work on the topic of elevated radials, told me that 20 ft is a minimum height for 160M. When I raised mine from about 6 ft to that height, TX signal improved significantly
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00040.html (8,567 bytes)

4. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: "Lux, Jim" <jim@luxfamily.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 13:15:47 -0800
On 1/11/22 12:16 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 1/11/2022 2:04 AM, Ignacy Misztal wrote: At my new QTH, initially  I set up inv U about 80 ft high with 4 125 ft elevated tuned radials about 10 feet high. N6
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00042.html (9,219 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Wes <wes_n7ws@triconet.org>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:55:51 -0700
I've already posted a copy of what N7CL posted to this group years ago.  His work, as well as the work of others, can also be found in ON4UN's  "Low Band DXing" starting on page 9-14 of the 5th editi
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00043.html (10,086 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: "Lux, Jim" <jim@luxfamily.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:46:29 -0800
Additionally see: "A Closer Look at Vertical Antennas With Elevated Ground Systems" by Rudy Severns N6LF.  He recommends 10-12 elevated radials as a minimum. Wes  N7WS My ON4UN is not readily to hand
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00044.html (9,733 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: KD7JYK DM09 <kd7jyk@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 21:10:35 -0800
"On4un writes that many stations find elevated radials to be a few db below ground radials. I believe this is ground dependent. Later I loaded 100ft tower with 32 radials while still having the first
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00045.html (8,637 bytes)

8. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 23:28:40 -0800
But what is the *reason* for it working better.  Is it something as simple as "the currents in the radials aren't loaded as heavily by something 20 feet away as opposed to 6 feet away" in which case
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00046.html (10,312 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Ignacy Misztal <no9e@arrl.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:49:36 -0500
Here are the facts. N6BT made measurements on 40m. He found that radials inches of the air are much better than many more on the ground. His QTH is OR with very good soil. He also found for ground ra
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00047.html (9,822 bytes)

10. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:27:09 -0600
Elevated radials are finding their way into broadcast sites. Copper clad steel can be used, they are less prone to damage from copper thieves, and in some locations, make it easier to continue operat
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00048.html (9,306 bytes)

11. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:34:31 -0800
I think you may be confusing N6BT with N6LF. Both are serious engineers who combine design and modeling with experimental work. N6BT is a contester and antenna mfr, and has done lots of work with res
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00049.html (11,402 bytes)

12. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Wes <wes_n7ws@triconet.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 13:46:23 -0700
Also see the old discussion with actual measurements by W8JI (in GA soil) http://lists.contesting.com/_topband/1996-10/msg00237.html Ignacy, NO9E A treasure trove in one thread, especially near the e
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00050.html (9,545 bytes)

13. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:55:36 -0800
Rather it's approximately 1/6 wavelength, folded 73, Jim K9YC _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contesti
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00051.html (10,270 bytes)

14. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Lee Hiers <lee.hiers@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:35:05 -0500
Back 20-ish years ago I used to operate from W4WA. Ron had a full-size 1/4 wave made of Rohn 25, with a homemade insulator at 20'. He had 20-22 resonant radials (I don't recall the exact number) even
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00052.html (9,142 bytes)

15. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Lee Hiers <lee.hiers@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:52:30 -0500
I wouldn't describe K2AV's signal in NorCal as "great" compared to other I can't either. But I have noticed K2AV's signal is one of the louder signals here in Georgia while listening on my inverted-L
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00053.html (10,176 bytes)

16. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Richard Karlquist <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:47:47 -0800
I will have to give K2AV credit in that his signal is always solid copy and pretty impressive for just using an FCP. He holds his own with the other east coast signals here. I can count on a QSO with
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00054.html (10,280 bytes)

17. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Michael Tope <W4EF@dellroy.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 09:24:26 -0800
I noticed pretty much the same here in Southern California, Rick. I curious about this yesterday, so I looked at RBN data comparing K2AV, N4AF, and N1LN in the 2021 ARRL 160 contest from several node
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00055.html (10,789 bytes)

18. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 12:51:02 -0800
I am considering the installation of an FCP with an inverted L for 160. It is discouraging to read W8JI's info on the FCP. Sounds like it has too littlle low angle radiation for DX. As discussed howe
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00056.html (11,512 bytes)

19. Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP (score: 1)
Author: Charlie Anderson <charlie12-21@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 21:32:41 +0000
Guys, try an inverted L with one radial under the horizontal leg, both 1/4 wave long. From MN I get into Europe on a good day with 100W CW vertical section about 45-50. I drive a rod down only a few
/archives//html/Towertalk/2022-01/msg00057.html (12,817 bytes)


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