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21. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: km1h@juno.com (km1h@juno.com); Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 21:31:19 EDT; But you still did not answer the question Rich..sounds like a rauchian evasion IMO. A getter has nothing to do with "gradual" gas absorbtion. The anode is the culprit and the getter is the cure acco; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00098.html (14,547 bytes)
22. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: ggeurts@amp.com (Geurts, Gerard); Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 08:44:02 +0100; Interesting you bring this up. You used Wes' tests many times in your mails to the reflector, and even used to have a link on your web pages to his web site. Interesting enough, that link has now gon; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00099.html (11,353 bytes)
23. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: measures@vc.net (Rich Measures); Date: Fri, 8 May 98 00:59:05 -0800; I am saying that I have seen gassy 3-500Zs, and the gas does not disappear, and that filament/grid shorted 3-500Zs very rarely exhibit gas leakage. I have never seen arc-marks in a filament/grid sho; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00100.html (15,622 bytes)
24. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: measures@vc.net (Rich Measures); Date: Fri, 8 May 98 03:57:44 -0800; When Wes' Website was removed from the Web, I removed the link. VHF-Rp is the issue in VHF parasitic suppressor design since Rp and tube Mu are determiners of VHF voltage amplification. Since Mu is; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00101.html (16,434 bytes)
25. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: G3SEK@ifwtech.demon.co.uk (Ian White, G3SEK); Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 13:51:52 +0100; But that's only a high-voltage, low-current glow discharge. The highpot tester cannot create a low-voltage, high-current arc. Only the B+ supply has the muscle to do that. As far as I can see, the da; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00102.html (10,440 bytes)
26. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: G3SEK@ifwtech.demon.co.uk (Ian White, G3SEK); Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 13:54:55 +0100; Sorry, Rich, that's flat-out wrong. I wonder if you truly understand series-parallel transformations. 73 from Ian G3SEK Editor, 'The VHF/UHF DX Book' 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB) http://; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00103.html (9,783 bytes)
27. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: measures@vc.net (Rich Measures); Date: Fri, 8 May 98 09:49:47 -0800; A high-pot. is not being used to possibly bend filament helices. It is being used to measure gas leakage at 9kV in fil.-grid shorted tubes that *already have bent filament helices*.. The issue at ha; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00106.html (10,891 bytes)
28. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: measures@vc.net (Rich Measures); Date: Fri, 8 May 98 09:49:49 -0800; If my series-parallel transformation method is wrong, Mr. White, then: 1. I managed to fool the entire technical review board at *QST* Magazine. {March, 1989 issue of *QST*} 2. the Hewlett-Packard M; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00107.html (10,034 bytes)
29. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: w4eto@rmii.com (Richard W. Ehrhorn); Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 14:48:27 -0600; Well stated, Ian. 73, Dick But that's only a high-voltage, low-current glow discharge. The highpot tester cannot create a low-voltage, high-current arc. Only the B+ supply has the muscle to do that.; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00109.html (11,009 bytes)
30. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: G3SEK@ifwtech.demon.co.uk (Ian White, G3SEK); Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 00:31:47 +0100; Not having the whole article to hand, I can't comment on that. No, just your interpretation, which is not the same as Wes's or almost everybody else's. Once again I think the answer is, no, just your; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00110.html (12,331 bytes)
31. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: measures@vc.net (Rich Measures); Date: Fri, 8 May 98 17:16:29 -0800; What interpretation?: Either my Rp calculations agree with the HP analyer's or they don't. No one on AMPS has stated that they performed Y and Rp calculations for a Ls/Rs vhf suppressor. What am I i; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00111.html (10,230 bytes)
32. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: km1h@juno.com (km1h@juno.com); Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 20:32:27 EDT; Rich and others... All the Rp, Rs, etc leaves me confused and to be honest..turned off. Using your early work as a BASIS I feel that it is both possible to have a suppressor that will completely do t; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00112.html (10,806 bytes)
33. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: km1h@juno.com (km1h@juno.com); Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 20:32:27 EDT; I still feel that you are combining outside atmospheric gas due to seals AND gas released by the anode into one generalization Rich. They are not the same. Yes, seal leakage will show up as a glow wi; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00114.html (20,104 bytes)
34. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: km1h@juno.com (km1h@juno.com); Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 21:07:03 EDT; Lots of SNIPs Ian, I have a problem understanding your last statement. If the L was properly selected for a particular tube AND circuit why would the Q always detrimentally increase at a lower freque; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00115.html (11,427 bytes)
35. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: pcmeas@hotmail.com (Arlen Mendelssohn); Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 21:33:25 PDT; Jon, I again apologize for being so rough; my emotions do get the best of me when higher education issues come into play. Blame it on my choice to be a regent for several colleges for 20 years, but i; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00116.html (12,444 bytes)
36. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: G3SEK@ifwtech.demon.co.uk (Ian White, G3SEK); Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 07:19:31 +0100; As the words "series" and "trap" are normally used, that would imply that the suppressor is resonant - which it ain't. It's a resistor paralleled by an inductor, and the network analyser measurements; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00118.html (12,328 bytes)
37. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: G3SEK@ifwtech.demon.co.uk (Ian White, G3SEK); Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 07:47:40 +0100; No, I won't bite. There is absolutely no need to drag admittance into this discussion. The whole calculation can be done in terms of the equations for converting parallel Rp and Xp into the series eq; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00119.html (10,368 bytes)
38. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: measures@vc.net (Rich Measures); Date: Sat, 9 May 98 01:57:19 -0800; Then on to Part II: what is the parallel-equivalent resistance of 200nH in parallel with 200 ohms at 100MHz? (presumably using the method described below) It is evident to me that the evidence will; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00120.html (10,719 bytes)
39. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: G3SEK@ifwtech.demon.co.uk (Ian White, G3SEK); Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 16:03:58 +0100; 200 ohms, at ANY frequency, by definition - no calculation is required. (Hopefully we are both assuming idealized components here, ie no parasitic L or C in the resistor, and no parasitic R of C in t; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00125.html (11,038 bytes)
40. [AMPS] Another arc question (score: 1): Author: km1h@juno.com (km1h@juno.com); Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 12:42:32 EDT; Wrong choice of words on my part Ian. But since the L is self resonant at some point would this not be a consideration? After all it is simply a RFC with a Q damping resistor across it. No different; /archives//html/Amps/1998-05/msg00126.html (16,266 bytes)

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