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1. [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: robert briggs <vk3zl@bigpond.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:41:45 +1000
I have built 4 amplifiers using the 4CX-250B-350R tubes in the so called "Super Cathode Driven" mode, tying the control grid to the cathode and grounding the screen grid....This design was in some ol
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00232.html (7,894 bytes)

2. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:45:22 -0400
Tokyo High Power marketed a cathode driven 2 X 4X150/4CX250 amp that had IMD on par with grid driven. The price was high for the power and didnt sell well in the US. The few I worked on were well bui
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00237.html (9,588 bytes)

3. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: Colin Lamb <k7fm@teleport.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:37:00 -0400 (EDT)
"Tokyo High Power marketed a cathode driven 2 X 4X150/4CX250 amp that had IMD on par with grid driven. The price was high for the power and didnt sell well in the US. The few I worked on were well bu
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00239.html (8,875 bytes)

4. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:11:56 -0400
I did a "double-take" the first time I had seen one since Tokyo Hy-Power is more commonly known as a SS amp manufacturer. What's really got me excited is the use of adaptive pre-distortion in the ne
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00240.html (8,952 bytes)

5. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:43:22 -0400
Unfortunately there are very few exciters on the market that could complement the technology Paul. For now its still GIGO. For our junior and international readers that is Garbage In Garbage Out, a t
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00243.html (10,129 bytes)

6. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:58:30 -0400
I dont believe there is any way to run a 4CX250 style tube in GG without destruction. Very few tetrodes have the necessary grid dissipation required. A relay driven bandswitching input network is one
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00244.html (10,680 bytes)

7. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "DF3KV" <df3kv@t-online.de>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:12:30 +0200
The Collins 30S1 is a good example were it is done with a 4CX250B style tube 73 Peter I dont believe there is any way to run a 4CX250 style tube in GG without destruction. Very few tetrodes have the
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00245.html (11,094 bytes)

8. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:27:30 -0400
I seriously doubt that adaptive predistortion is covered by any enforceable patent and it is certainly not limited to digital modulation. Phillips, Marconi and others, used predistortion with analog
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00246.html (11,817 bytes)

9. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:13:49 -0400
Yes, if you mean cathode driven. It has less grid dissipation than a 250. Carl KM1H _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/m
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00247.html (12,596 bytes)

10. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:48:19 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: Are you talking control grid or screen grid? My understanding is that the control grid sees the same drive power whether grounded grid or grounded cathode operation. Incorrec
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00249.html (8,510 bytes)

11. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:57:58 -0400
Control grid. In AB1 there is no power consumed, in GG it is no longer AB1. Carl KM1H _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00250.html (9,640 bytes)

12. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: Roger <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:40:09 -0400
Yah can't get much less than zero<:-)) 73 Roger (K8RI) _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amps
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00251.html (13,545 bytes)

13. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:52:30 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: GG can be any class. Which class it is depends on the bias voltage and drive level. 73, Bill W6WRT _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@cont
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00252.html (8,787 bytes)

14. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:40:13 -0400
Try it sometime with a 4CX250 and tell us all what you get for power out in those classes. Carl KM1H _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00254.html (9,643 bytes)

15. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:40:46 -0500
Bill Orr specifically says in his notes that the "supper cathode driven mode" is NOT recommended for the 4CX250 family of tubes. 73 Gary K4FMX _______________________________________________ Amps mai
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00260.html (11,487 bytes)

16. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:41:08 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: REPLY: Different issue. As you go from class A to AB1 to AB2 to B to C, both power output and efficiency increase. That's true for all tubes, not just the 4CX250. 73, Bill W6WRT ___
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00261.html (9,218 bytes)

17. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:01:37 -0500
Definitions: The Collins 30S1 is called a "cathode driven" amplifier not a "grounded grid" amplifier. Even though the grid and screen are at RF ground the DC grid and screen voltages are not at groun
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00263.html (14,220 bytes)

18. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:04:35 -0500
Not when using a tetrode. 73 Gary K4FMX _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amps
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00264.html (9,438 bytes)

19. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:09:01 -0500
The 4CX250 actually can be run in AB2 as it can stand a couple of watts of grid dissipation. There are AB2 specs for that tube. The 4CX1000 is only rated for AB1 operation. Zero grid current, howeve
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00265.html (10,461 bytes)

20. Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain (score: 1)
Author: Roger <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:15:00 -0400
That seems strange as the grid is rated at zero watts dissipation. 73 Roger (K8RI) _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/ma
/archives//html/Amps/2009-07/msg00268.html (10,486 bytes)


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