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1. [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: Dave Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:30:30 -0800
Hello, I have an AL-82, my habit is to turn it on, allow it to warm for about 5 minutes prior to use, use the amp, then turn it back off. Sometimes I find that I will be using the amp again within 10
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00100.html (6,636 bytes)

2. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: "Hsu" <hsu4qro@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:32:35 +0800
The direct heat filament/cathode only needs few secondsv to work. If power supply of filment without inrush current limiter or soft start, you'd better keep it turn on in half hour. a good idea if yo
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00101.html (8,657 bytes)

3. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: "Jim W7RY" <jimw7ry@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:22:44 -0800
Leave it on. Filament time is better than the inrush current. The step start in the AL-82 is VERY short which can have high inrush current on the tube filaments. 73 Jim W7RY _________________________
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00103.html (9,088 bytes)

4. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: Dave Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:57:40 -0800
Hello, Many thanks to all! I suspected the answers would tend towards the leave it on side of things, but wanted to ask to be sure... THANKS AGAIN TO ALL!!! Dave NK7Z ________________________________
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00104.html (8,606 bytes)

5. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: Charles Harpole <k4vud@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:39:52 +0000
I asked Alpha amps tech this question and otherwise the received wisdom over the years agrees with this.... Turn on is the worst thing that can happen to something with a filliament, like a light bul
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00106.html (9,606 bytes)

6. [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:44:35 -0800
Hello, I have an AL-82, my habit is to turn it on, allow it to warm for about 5 minutes prior to use, use the amp, then turn it back off. Sometimes I find that I will be using the amp again within 10
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00107.html (8,971 bytes)

7. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: BJ VOUTE <fxb1982@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:38:34 -0600
This is what I gather: The AL-82 manual specifies warm up time as "approximately 30 seconds" while the AL-80B manual states "10 seconds". I am guessing that the chimney type cooling VS the muffin fan
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00108.html (10,016 bytes)

8. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:00:08 -0500
Nope, different manual writers; 30 seconds is better. Thats nothing new and just common sense copied from as far back as the first AC operated table radio.The military found that out also as the MTBF
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00110.html (13,153 bytes)

9. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:01:36 -0500
Its too bad amps dont have a B+ On-Off switch such as the old NCL-2000 offered....saves a lot of unecessary hours on PS components. Leave just the filaments on. Carl KM1H ____________________________
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00111.html (11,904 bytes)

10. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: Patrick Barthelow <apolloeme@live.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:56:36 -0800
Here is an idea to help instant on Tubes, reduce the cold to hot current shock cycles. I was going to say install a Variac in the filament circuit. Variacs to handle 200 watts are not so expensive an
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00112.html (13,048 bytes)

11. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: Roger <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:38:11 -0500
Just my opinion: First: What do we cool on the tubes with forced air? On glass tubes which are cooled primarily by radiation, we are mainly cooling the seals. With external anode tubes we are cooling
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00113.html (17,559 bytes)

12. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: BJ VOUTE <fxb1982@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:49:05 -0600
Is there an official Eimac or other tube manufacturer data sheet that specifies warm-up/cool-down for a 3-500? I looked at an Eimac 3-500 sheet and must have missed it? ______________________________
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00114.html (14,418 bytes)

13. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: "Mike Baker" <k7dd@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:38:52 -0700
Speaking of warm up times and filament life got me to thinking about a ramping switch system for the whole power supply. As I understand it there are devices which will chop up the AC sine wave into
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00115.html (8,799 bytes)

14. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:42:45 -0500
It would likely be discussed in Care and Feeding or various Application Notes. All are available on the Internet. Bill Orr also wrote many articles for CQ and QST discussing cooling and other subject
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00118.html (14,630 bytes)

15. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: "Carel, pc5m" <pc5m@xs4all.nl>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:49:40 +0100
Hi Mike, Have a look at: http://www.pc5m.net/projects/filament-inrush-protection Is in use for my TH289 (45amps of filament current) amplifier. Gl, Carel Speaking of warm up times and filament life g
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00124.html (9,634 bytes)

16. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: "Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 03:46:45 -0500
Just use a Triac and let it ramp up the voltage over a few seconds...say 5 or 10. After the ramp up, switch out the Triac with a relay as they tend to be a bit noisy. Mostly it's the diac keying that
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00130.html (10,757 bytes)

17. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: "Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 04:45:17 -0500
The data sheets I have do not list any warm up times. IOW, throw the switch and go. It does state that Inrush current should be limited to two times normal current during turn on to limit thermal str
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00131.html (10,568 bytes)

18. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: Roger <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:42:03 -0500
I think it'd be well worth the effort, but I'm loathe to punch additional holes in the front panel of things that cost several thousand dollars and up. I'd actually like to be able to turn off the fi
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00136.html (9,323 bytes)

19. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: Patrick Barthelow <apolloeme@live.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:24:00 -0800
I have been thinking about what Roger and Carl just mentioned about front panel modes that would be nice for amp flexibility. Why not find the best key fob short range on off switch widget out there,
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00142.html (11,638 bytes)

20. Re: [Amps] Warm up and on time question... (score: 1)
Author: Radio WC6W <wc6w_amps@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:15:55 -0800 (PST)
Hi Mike, It could be done in the "old way" with a phase control using a Triac. See Unitrode Application Note U-83 http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/slup061/slup061.pdf or perhaps an old GE SCR handbook. A mod
/archives//html/Amps/2011-12/msg00196.html (10,442 bytes)


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