- 41. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: Peter Chadwick <g3rzp@g3rzp.wanadoo.co.uk>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 08:37:08 +0200 (CEST)
- As I recall, that is done by determining the width of the dip and calculating what frequency points are at some reference level. < If you know what dip corresponds to the 3dB points, I can see that.
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00199.html (9,214 bytes)
- 42. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: Peter Chadwick <g3rzp@g3rzp.wanadoo.co.uk>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 08:39:34 +0200 (CEST)
- L to C ratio is very large. < Is that a general statement or one just applying to the mobile whip example? Sorry, Tom, but I don't understand: can you elucidate, please? 73 Peter G3RZP ______________
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- 43. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 10:58:49 -0400
- It's a general statement. A series resonant circuit doesn't change modes until the stray capacitance effectively shunting the inductor from end-to-end is equal to inductance. A short mobile antenna
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00208.html (8,460 bytes)
- 44. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: Bill Turner <dezrat@copper.net>
- Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 09:50:51 -0700
- ORIGINAL MESSAGE: -- REPLY SEPARATOR -- When you include the car body, it is a parallel resonant circuit, not series. The whip is electromagnetically coupled to the car body and that makes it paralle
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- 45. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: Bill Turner <dezrat@copper.net>
- Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 09:57:16 -0700
- ORIGINAL MESSAGE: -- REPLY SEPARATOR -- I can't believe you would say such a thing, Peter. Perhaps I missed the smiley face? :-) You are confusing the current within a component with the current with
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00214.html (8,996 bytes)
- 46. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: R L Measures <r@somis.org>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 05:52:12 -0700
- Who said a dipmeter measures anything but frequency? R L MEASURES, AG6K. 805-386-3734 r@somis.org _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.co
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- 47. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: R L Measures <r@somis.org>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 06:03:34 -0700
- Which is why a 1/4 wave whip has to be shorted to dip it with a dipmeter. However, with a Trio-Kenwood dipmeter, one has the option of unshorting the whip, using the C coupling adapter and measuring
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00217.html (11,489 bytes)
- 48. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: R L Measures <r@somis.org>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 06:13:04 -0700
- My Trio-Kenwood dipmeter reads grid dips. For example, when it is grounded, a 3-500Z grid dips c. 88MHz . - note - With all three grid pins of a 3-500Z grounded, there is an additional dip between gr
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00218.html (10,288 bytes)
- 49. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: R L Measures <r@somis.org>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 06:25:26 -0700
- An L and C are in Series when one end of one is connected to one end of the other. When the remaining ends are joined, they are in Parallel. R L MEASURES, AG6K. 805-386-3734 r@somis.org _____________
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- 50. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: "Jim Tonne" <tonne@comcast.net>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 14:18:03 -0400
- Nice explanation. Hadn't looked things that way. Thanks! - JimT _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amp
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- 51. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 14:51:23 -0400
- When you include the car body, it is a parallel resonant circuit, not series. The whip is electromagnetically coupled to the car body and that makes it parallel resonant. >> What does that mean? Anyt
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00224.html (11,255 bytes)
- 52. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: Vic K2VCO <vic@rakefet.com>
- Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:34:50 -0700
- Let's say I take a coil and connect a capacitor across it. If I couple RF into the coil from my GDO, I think you'll agree that it's a parallel circuit. Now if you open the circuit and insert, say, an
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00229.html (10,833 bytes)
- 53. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 17:14:40 -0400
- It the antenna's capacitance is indeed exclusively across the loading coil, we are in big trouble. We have lost all common mode currents and radiation resistance is zero. 73 Tom ____________________
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- 54. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: Peter Chadwick <g3rzp@g3rzp.wanadoo.co.uk>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 23:40:39 +0200 (CEST)
- of the other. When the remaining ends are joined, they are in Parallel.< Depends where the energy is injected. If it's across the circuit, then they're parallel. If it's induced into the coil, it has
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00233.html (8,423 bytes)
- 55. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: Peter Chadwick <g3rzp@g3rzp.wanadoo.co.uk>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 23:48:28 +0200 (CEST)
- RF into the coil from my GDO, I think you'll agree that it's a parallel circuit.< No. The current induced in the coil is in series with the coil. So the whole thing is a series resonant circuit. Or K
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00234.html (8,009 bytes)
- 56. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: Steve Thompson <g8gsq@eltac.co.uk>
- Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 23:33:02 +0100
- In a finite universe I figure there's always going to be some capacitance and/or inductance and/or resistance between the 'open' ends of a series L and C, so everything is a parallel circuit. The iss
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00235.html (8,072 bytes)
- 57. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: "Will Matney" <craxd1@verizon.net>
- Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 14:24:59 -0400
- Jim, According to the manual on my Heathkit HD-1250 GDO, that same parallel circuit is the basis you use to measure inductance and capacitance with a dip meter. You use the LC parallel circuit and th
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00241.html (10,556 bytes)
- 58. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: "Will Matney" <craxd1@verizon.net>
- Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 19:04:28 -0400
- Peter and Vic, According to the HD-1250 Heath GDO manual, for measuring an unknown inductor I quote; (1) Connect a low value capacitor across the unknown inductor; for example 100 pF. (2) Use the dip
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00242.html (9,270 bytes)
- 59. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: Peter Chadwick <g3rzp@g3rzp.wanadoo.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 09:55:07 +0200 (CEST)
- capacitance and/or inductance and/or resistance between the 'open' ends of a series L and C, so everything is a parallel circuit. The issue is whether it's significant.< All that does is complicate t
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00243.html (8,936 bytes)
- 60. Re: [Amps] grid resonance (score: 1)
- Author: Ian White GM3SEK <gm3sek@ifwtech.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 10:09:32 +0100
- Surely the important thing is whether there is a CIRCUIT, in the strict literal sense of that word - a closed loop around which current can circ-u-late. Without a closed loop, no current can flow fro
- /archives//html/Amps/2006-08/msg00244.html (10,414 bytes)
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