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21. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:58:47 +0000
the tqsl program that the league supplies to sign your logs with already does that conversion from Cabrillo to lotw. David Robbins K1TTT e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net web: http://www.k1ttt.net AR-Cl
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00259.html (10,552 bytes)

22. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: Michael Keane K1MK <k1mk@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:35:48 -0400
Slim has been a regular fixture in the DX game for a long time and Slim has benn known to borrow real callsigns. To know that a station is an LoTW participant all one has to do is look at the HB9BZA
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00260.html (11,278 bytes)

23. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:23:26 -0400
Pete, (The following is my opinion. I don't represent or speak for ARRL): If you drop the requirement that both stations participating in the QSO be LoTW members, then it's quite easy to impersonate
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00265.html (19,160 bytes)

24. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "K0HB " <k-zero-hb@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:25:00 -0800
is You're absolutely correct, Albert, as far as you've stated the situation. But of course there are more options than "if you don't like the rules, then just buzz off, creep". One of those other op
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00270.html (8,770 bytes)

25. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "N7mal" <n7mal@citlink.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:25:46 -0800
I am not a lawyer and will not pretend to be one. I was reading through the LOTW FAQ's to see if anything applied to this discussion. I came across this sentence which I believe would/could also appl
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00271.html (10,719 bytes)

26. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "Robert Naumann" <w5ov@w5ov.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:01:52 -0500
Hans, I would be most interested in what you perceive as being negative about the logs being public. I am not aware of anything negative resulting for any of the participants of the last two years of
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00275.html (9,874 bytes)

27. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: k3bu@optimum.net
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:04:46 +0000 (GMT)
Lemme see... We operate contests on the air, when anyone, the whole world can listen. Nowadays one can dedicate Skimmer to monitor whatever. Now comes the "private transaction" or even copyright of
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00276.html (9,197 bytes)

28. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "K0HB " <k-zero-hb@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:46:26 -0800
the of is Hi Bob, Off reflector K1AR asked a similar question, so I'll just cut and paste that exchange below: _______________________________________________________ K1AR Question: Hans, As a guy w
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00277.html (11,499 bytes)

29. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:30:43 -0400
The proper question is why any contest sponsor should unilaterally take the unprecedented step of releasing all contest logs to public mischief? None of that justifies making logs public. It is up t
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00278.html (14,111 bytes)

30. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "Dick-w0raa" <w0raa@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:37:29 -0600
Hans, I'm just curious and really don't want to get into this thread other than to ask a question. I am not judging anybody's decision, but my question is: What is the big deal about keeping your con
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00279.html (10,429 bytes)

31. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "Stan Stockton" <k5go@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:07:36 -0500
Have not read much of this but generally agree with W4TV and K0HB on this subject. I don't think LOTW will allow you to print out a chronological log for someone else's contesting effort. Making the
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00281.html (9,766 bytes)

32. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "Pat Collins N8VW" <n8vw@linuxcolumbus.com>
Date: 30 Jul 2008 11:28:49 -0400
I propose that a line be added to the cabrillo format that gives the user control over how their log is used by the scoring committees. For example: LICENSE: Public Domain LICENSE: Private Scoring on
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00282.html (9,653 bytes)

33. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "David Kopacz" <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:00:40 -0500
I agree with Hans' "fair use" statement. It isn't fair for others to be able to sift through the past logs of competitive station in order to figure out their strategy, particularly with regards to b
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00283.html (9,368 bytes)

34. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "David Kopacz" <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:27:57 -0500
Dick, Let me provide a single example. Let's take 6Y1V and PJ2T, whom are relatively close geographically and compete in a number of contests, such as CQWW and ARRL International DX contests. Geoff (
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00284.html (11,672 bytes)

35. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "Vladimir Sidorov" <vs_otw@rogers.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:12:22 -0400
Yet another look at open logs. As a contest sponsor/adjudicator I have been asked several times to make logs open for the following reason: Let us go through logs and determine poorest operators so t
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00285.html (9,608 bytes)

36. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: Michael Coslo <mjc5@psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:50:22 -0400
If I were to hazard a guess, I wouldn't doubt there might be some correlation between people who think cheating is rampant, and support for public logs. It will be possible to go back through the log
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00289.html (11,601 bytes)

37. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: <ve4xt@mts.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:21:04 -0500
As much as Vladimir's example below is repugnant, and those who told him such should be deeply ashamed, and as much as I may not wish to see the "open log" concept applied to all contests, I wonder i
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00293.html (11,280 bytes)

38. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: steve.root@culligan4water.com
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:57:09 +0000
I personally don't think open logs are any big threat, on the other hand I don't see any good application for them either. Propagation is so very different from one year to the next. In the 2001 CQWW
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00294.html (9,194 bytes)

39. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "Gerry Hull" <gerry@yccc.org>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:27:36 -0400
Hi David and company, I understand your viewpoint. However, the cats out of the bag, for the biggest of DX Contests, CQWW. I already have a software strategy tool which plots the QSO rate and Mult ra
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00299.html (14,310 bytes)

40. Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step? (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:50:44 -0400
Gerry, The Cabrillo header will also need to be removed. By the way, this would be a perfect solution for CQ as well ... convert all calls to random 9 digit sequence. Each log could be assigned the 9
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-07/msg00301.html (17,183 bytes)


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