I find it difficult to equate the passive receiving of disorganized information as the same thing as being logged into a spotting network, being fed thousands of specific data points that feed variou
I dont see an issue with what you describe Mike. But what if during the SS I ask folks I am working to tell me where the VE8 is or for that matter if I keep telling folks on frequency that I need VE8
Author: "Paul J. Piercey" <p.piercey@nl.rogers.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:34:31 -0000
If you request/get specific info and use it, you are assisted. Period. During the phone SS contest I was running on 20 M and every now and then I would stop the pileup and ask for VE7. I never stipu
I guess we can't call "CQ contest especially VE8" or "CQ zone 29" for fear that someone will help us in some unforeseen way. It's complicated nowdays... Steve K8LX ___________________________________
IMHO, all of this becomes moot, if, after any/all contest(s), you can look yourself in the mirror, and be convinced that, regardless of the category, you did everything within your power to "observe
-- Original Message -- I guess we can't call "CQ contest especially VE8" or "CQ zone 29" for fear that someone will help us in some unforeseen way. It's complicated nowdays... Steve K8LX -- Steve, It
Author: "Paul J. Piercey" <p.piercey@nl.rogers.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:21:37 -0000
I am not the source of that entire passage but I think you misunderstood my point. You CAN CQ/ask for a specific zone, prefix or mult and be unassisted. You CANNOT ask someone/anyone to tell you whe
"Just as you CANNOT take unsolicited info, act upon it and be unassisted." I'm mystified by your conclusion. If you didn't arrange for it, and it is truly unsolicited, how can you be assisted? While
While I understand the intent here to do things totally on your own, the reality is that if I was calling CQ in SS, and someone randomly drops by and says "hey Oven, VY1JA is up 10 if you need him",
Author: "Paul J. Piercey" <p.piercey@nl.rogers.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:54:08 -0000
Yep, you're right, which illustrates how ambiguous these rules are and how nit-picky things can get because of it. Personally, I'm with you. If someone casually says that a rare or hard-to-get mult
Ev, I didn't intend to suggest that there *should be* a time limit. Instead, my questions were meant to point out how unrealistic (maybe even absurd) such a definition of assisted would be. My summar
reality is that if I was calling CQ in SS, and someone randomly drops by and says "hey Oven, VY1JA is up 10 if you need him", I would not hesitate to go up 10 and work Jay. How could I ignore that i
"Just as you CANNOT take unsolicited info, act upon it and be unassisted." I'm mystified by your conclusion. If you didn't arrange for it, and it is truly unsolicited, how can you be assisted? ** A l
** 1) You mixed up the word "assisted" as defined in the dictionary and "Assisted" as interpreted defined (poorly defined or otherwise) by contesting rules. One definition, the contesting variety, i
Author: "Paul J. Piercey" <p.piercey@nl.rogers.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 20:23:18 -0000
I think that you should have to actively seek out assistance, such as requesting dx info during contacts or connecting to a cluster, to be categorized as "assisted". This, as far as I'm concerned, i
He wasn't >assisting< her. He was >teaching< her. She was >learning<. (Thanks, K5ZD) 73 es beep beep, de Hans, K0HB -- _______________________________________________ CQ-Contest mailing list CQ-Cont
-- Original Message -- Imagine starting a contest and running the whole thing unassisted. In the last 5 minutes, a station contacts you and, in the course of the exchange says "thanks for the new one
No, he was the second op in a Multi-Op. If he just rolled down his window and told her how to do it she would be "assisted". 73, Gerry K8GT _______________________________________________ CQ-Contest
Author: "Paul J. Piercey" <p.piercey@nl.rogers.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 17:34:22 -0000
Hi Ev, Wow, first NASCAR and now softball. Sports... is there any problem they can't solve? :) Anyway, as it states in the rules you provided, it is a judgement call... not de facto. "Umpires will be