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101. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:06:06 +0000
This is not the same as the analysis I do... the spotting being discussed here is someone spotting stations calling you in your pileup, not spotting you so others can find you. This would not make s
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00474.html (10,867 bytes)

102. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: Michael Keane K1MK <k1mk@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:54:09 -0400
Except that if those really were PRIVATE spotting nets, then neither Dave nor anyone else would be able to see what was happening on those nets. It would be totally undetectable. If the rules really
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00475.html (10,707 bytes)

103. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: "Mike Fatchett W0MU" <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:01:00 -0600
Agreed....... Skimmer in the local shack is nothing more than an improved bandscope IMHO. You still need to verify the callsign of the stations that are shown. You still need to tune to that staion,
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00476.html (11,838 bytes)

104. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: <ve4xt@mts.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:44:55 -0500
Exactly my point. You did not copy the callsign. Thanks for making it crystal clear. 73, kelly ve4xt _______________________________________________ CQ-Contest mailing list CQ-Contest@contesting.com
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00477.html (8,994 bytes)

105. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: Stan Stockton <k5go@cox.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:42:57 -0400
Mike, Skimmer changes it into something that can be automatic. This is a completely different animal than a "good-hearted" individual sitting there copying callsigns and typing them on a keyboard all
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00478.html (12,181 bytes)

106. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: "Paul J. Piercey" <p.piercey@nl.rogers.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:54:20 -0500
Hi Kelly, Not so. A local Skimmer tells me what MY station can hear but the Cluster tells me what others can hear. Moreover, it requires action on the part of another person to feed me that informati
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00479.html (14,219 bytes)

107. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Osborne" <w7why@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:57:50 -0700
{with skimmer} Hi Mike. I'm confused. With packet you don't have to verify the stations that are shown, but with Skimmer you do? I think part of the original thread was people who can't read fast CW
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00481.html (9,212 bytes)

108. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: Andrew <ac6wi@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:14:08 -0400
A bandscope does not alert you to DX as it does not decode the callsigns for you or highlight that you haven't worked them already. Therefore a bandscope is not DX alerting assistance. How so? With D
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00482.html (9,691 bytes)

109. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: Michael Keane K1MK <k1mk@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:12:41 -0400
Perhaps. Although I am skeptical that knowing which inaudible stations are calling me would be quite so beneficial. Even if I'm being fed callsigns (assumed to be correct), once I get a callsign, I'm
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00483.html (10,779 bytes)

110. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: "Richard DiDonna NN3W" <nn3w@cox.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:32:31 -0400
Exactly. This bandscope issue is a load. A bandscope doesn't tell you if someone is CQing. A bandscope doesn't tell you if its someone tuning up or PSK. A bandscope doesn't tell you if the station yo
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00484.html (9,504 bytes)

111. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: "Edward" <sawyered@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:49:12 -0400
Does anyone want to argue that using a "Code Reader" is NOT assistance. I can think of no greater poster child for DEFINING Assistance than a code reader. Lets just put an end to the endless debate b
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00485.html (9,469 bytes)

112. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: Andrew <ac6wi@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:47:31 -0400
No we haven't. Read the CQWW rules which clearly state "The use of DX alerting assistance of any kind places the station in the Single Operator Assisted category". The key part of that is "DX alertin
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00486.html (13,149 bytes)

113. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:11:08 +0000
Sure, I'll argue that! You are arguing that a piece of software/hardware that operates slower and less accurately than your brain is 'assistance' in a contest environment, bull! I consider a code re
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00487.html (9,434 bytes)

114. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:17:45 +0000
As literally read this places any operator that turns their dial to alert themselves to the presence of dx in the assisted category. So2r operators are way into the assisted category since they can
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00488.html (9,382 bytes)

115. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: Jim Preston <jpreston1@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:32:52 -0700
If you consider a code reader to be assistance, why not a memory keyer or computer generated cw? For that matter, computer logging. All of those give the operator as much assistance as a code reader.
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00489.html (10,511 bytes)

116. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:20:21 +0000
but obviously if you don't turn your dial you can't be alerted to the frequency or calls of stations not on your cqing frequency, so you are assisted by turning the knob... having a second knob so y
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00490.html (11,042 bytes)

117. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: Stan Stockton <k5go@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:04:39 -0500
Sorry, but if the operator tunes the radio and finds stations to work, he is not receiving assistance. He is doing the job himself.. A more legitmate arguement than this one could be made to those w
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00491.html (9,834 bytes)

118. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: "Paul O'Kane" <pokane@ei5di.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:25:48 +0100
Sure they are - but only to those who believe that CW is just another data mode. The rest of us know better. 73, Paul EI5DI _______________________________________________ CQ-Contest mailing list CQ-
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00492.html (9,461 bytes)

119. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: Zack Widup <w9sz@prairienet.org>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:25:09 -0500 (CDT)
I wasn't clear exactly about what a code reader is, but if it's something like a PK232 which decodes Morse into text, then I think the same as Dave. My feelings on them are that I'd never use one mys
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00493.html (11,263 bytes)

120. Re: [CQ-Contest] The Skimmer Rule Challenge (score: 1)
Author: "David Kopacz" <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:02:03 -0500
'assistance' in Come on Dave! With all due respect, your brain, my brain and our peer's brains are certainly not capable of simultaneously listening to and decoding every signal within a 48 kHz, 96
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-06/msg00494.html (10,001 bytes)


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