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1. [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: "Jukka Klemola" <jukka.klemola@elisanet.fi>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:51:25 +0200; Ward's letter tells to log them. I do not. Instead I tell the other station QSO B4. In case of a disagreement, I agree with the station that I remove the 1st QSO and the QSO we will log is the one I; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00299.html (6,831 bytes)
2. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: "Robert Naumann" <w5ov@w5ov.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:05:54 -0600; Jukka, In what contest is a dupe in *your* log a negative value? Please explain. 73, Bob W5OV --Original Message-- From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] O; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00300.html (8,250 bytes)
3. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: Richard DiDonna NN3W <nn3w@cox.net>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:24:44 -0800; So instead you spent more time discussing whether the guy is a real dupe or not, and instead you could have simply logged the "dupe" QSO and moved on... 73 Rich NN3W _________________________________; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00301.html (8,357 bytes)
4. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: Jim Rhodes <k0xu@longlines.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:54:07 -0600; When someone tells me "QSO B4" I just spin the dial and let them get the NIL in their log. Maybe some day they will learn. No skin off me & they get any penalty. Takes too long to argue, I might miss; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00304.html (8,702 bytes)
5. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: "Tom Haavisto" <kamham69@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:29:44 -0500; By leaving both QSOs in your log, you do not get a penalty. The log checking software will find the first QSO, and not find a match in my log. It will find the second QSO in your log AND my log. It t; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00307.html (9,500 bytes)
6. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: <ve4xt@mts.net>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:51:24 -0600; I too at am a loss to follow the logic here. If you don't work him as a dupe and you did screw it up earlier in the log, you're still going to be penalized for that earlier screw-up. If you really di; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00308.html (9,310 bytes)
7. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: "Jukka Klemola" <jukka.klemola@elisanet.fi>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:30:41 +0200; All, as there has been also others replying I am not behaving correctly .. I am puzzled. My justification for saying QSO B4 is that I have the station call in my log. The station calling me for a sec; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00310.html (9,112 bytes)
8. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: Julius Fazekas <phriendly1@yahoo.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:03:23 -0800 (PST); Jukka, It may also be possible that you have copied and logged a call incorrectly, which would also be a potential NIL. I have to admit if I'm in S&P and I run across someone sending "QSO B4", I keep; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00311.html (12,091 bytes)
9. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:05:44 -0700; Jukka, as I mentioned to you in a private email, the problem is that in perhaps 90% of the cases the other station will simply depart the frequency as soon as you send QSO B4 and pause for a reply. M; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00312.html (11,627 bytes)
10. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: "Jukka Klemola" <jukka.klemola@elisanet.fi>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:16:42 +0200; Yep. In case it would not be a real dupe, I have a faulty line in my log. 73, Jukka OH6LI --Alkuperäinen viesti-- Lähettäjä: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.co; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00313.html (10,122 bytes)
11. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: steve.root@culligan4water.com; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:42:27 +0000; I'm usually in the camp that works the dupes and keeps on going, however in last weekend's ARRL 160 meter DX contest the number of dupes was astonishing. I had one VE3 call me seven different times.; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00315.html (8,727 bytes)
12. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: "Jukka Klemola" <jukka.klemola@elisanet.fi>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:47:50 +0200; ... Nope in case it is fixed in cooperation and understanding. Right? ..and during contest and on the band/mode in question.. Not postcontest over email or skype. 73, jukka OH6LI ____________________; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00316.html (8,438 bytes)
13. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: "Yuri VE3DZ" <ve3dz@rigexpert.net>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:32:05 -0500; Usually, when I operate from a DX location (~4500...6000 Q's in one weekend) I end up with about 150...250 dupes. Imagine, it's like 2 (or even more!) HOURS you are operating for nothing! It's just w; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00317.html (8,906 bytes)
14. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:05:32 -0500; Sorry. I don't think that this is wise. It brings to mind a small incident many, many moons ago, under my previous call. I had just started in a state QSO party. My fourth or fifth contact informed m; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00318.html (10,445 bytes)
15. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: "Larry" <lknain@nc.rr.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:51:39 -0500; You may have copied someone who was working someone else on a few hundred hertz away. I have had stations acknowledge my report when I was in fact working someone else nearby. The station I was wrkin; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00323.html (11,159 bytes)
16. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: Dale Putnam <daleputnam@hotmail.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:50:18 -0700; There is one other opinion that needs to be considered by some. First consider that I am a representative from a low population state, and if I have been running, which is somewhat difficult at best,; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00325.html (10,827 bytes)
17. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: "Jukka Klemola" <jukka.klemola@elisanet.fi>; Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:21:45 +0200; ... Maybe this is the outcome also for me. We have a great set of people here on the reflector. Capable of reviewing any question from multiple angles. 99% of folks not getting carried away by emotio; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00333.html (8,449 bytes)
18. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: "Paul T. Antos" <wb2abd@roadrunner.com>; Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:41:00 -0500; ARRL 160 ... imagine getting a dupe from a guy you've known for many years... belongs to the same club ... I haven't been able to broach the subject. Felt like my cat bit me ... like the man said, no; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00342.html (7,938 bytes)
19. Re: [CQ-Contest] The dupes? (score: 1): Author: Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net>; Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:08:13 -0600; On phone, I give them the exchange, then I tell them that they are a dup, and I add that they are in the log again. Quite often they copy my callsign as VE5 instead of the correct VA5. Doug Life is n; /archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-12/msg00376.html (9,036 bytes)

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