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21. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: wng@daimlerchrysler.com; Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:54:24 -0500; Gentlemen, There are two distinct issues here: Differential Mode noise and Common Mode noise. Differential mode exists from one conductor to another in the same bundle or harness. It is probable gene; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00088.html (16,378 bytes)
22. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Cortland Richmond" <ka5s@earthlink.net>; Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:02:49 -0800; The FT -etc. numbers are from Amidon. Fair Rite uses the first two numbers for product line and the next two for core material. I have found four inch OD 31 material toroids on sale at flea markets.; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00090.html (8,550 bytes)
23. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Jim P" <jvpoll@dallas.net>; Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:41:33 -0600; Nice summary, I hope everyone takes it to heart; 'been there and done that' a few times over, having come from a rather 'hostile' power environment involving numerous direct off-line muti-ten-kilowat; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00091.html (17,955 bytes)
24. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com>; Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:42:04 -0800; I respectfully disagree with your statement, Bill. When I was trying to solve the RFI problems with my Honda EU2000i, I tried using a B&W AC line filter that I had lying around the shack. It did abso; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00093.html (11,207 bytes)
25. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>; Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:49:22 -0600; See my email from yesterday on this, Mike, when I ran through what could happen with impedance added to the ground. The issue is lightning protection, and the impedance that gets you common mode nois; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00095.html (9,609 bytes)
26. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com>; Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:06:39 -0800; Type 73 appears to be a good choice for HF, but I don't think Fair-Rite Products produces it in toroid form. I think it's only available in bead form or binocular cores. I just measured an ~12" long; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00096.html (8,945 bytes)
27. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: Dan Richardson <k6mhe@adelphia.net>; Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 07:59:37 -0800; Yup, it looks like your right Mike. I see #77 material listed but not #73. Thanks, Danny, K6MHE _______________________________________________ RFI mailing list RFI@contesting.com http://lists.contes; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00097.html (8,496 bytes)
28. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: wng@daimlerchrysler.com; Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:06:12 -0500; 75, 77 and J are all useful at HF. Bill Gilmore WB8FPQ Dan Richardson <k6mhe@adelphia.net> Sent by: rfi-bounces@contesting.com 03/24/2005 10:59 AM To RFI@contesting.com cc Subject Re: [RFI] Honda Gen; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00098.html (8,576 bytes)
29. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Jim P" <jvpoll@dallas.net>; Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:00:14 -0600; I just GOTTA ask this question; The entire by-the-book 'Lightning protection' treatment - on an itinerantly-operated 2 KW portable Honda generator? I suppose, esp. if you are intent on operating your; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00100.html (11,912 bytes)
30. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: Jimk8mr@aol.com; Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:56:11 EST; So how clean of a sine wave does it put out? Something approaching a real sine wave, or something like the "modified sine wave" square waves put out by cheap inverters? Also, how clean is the 12 volt; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00101.html (9,361 bytes)
31. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Jim P" <jvpoll@dallas.net>; Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:21:48 -0600; Per Honda: "Honda boasts a sine wave equal to or better than the current from your household power." (The next line(s) represents one URL if it gets broken up) www.hondapowerequipment.com/ModelDetail; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00102.html (9,002 bytes)
32. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com>; Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:14:17 -0800; I looked at the output of my EU2000i on a 100 MHz scope and it looked like a pretty darn clean sine wave. RMS voltage regulation is very good - probably better than the 120 V outlets in my shack. I h; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00104.html (12,296 bytes)
33. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Jim P" <jvpoll@dallas.net>; Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:52:52 -0600; Tnx for the info, Michael - see also below further questions, comments. - big snip - Also, I would be curious what the negative side of this output is referenced or tied to - gen chassis or perhaps f; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00105.html (9,718 bytes)
34. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Clay Curtiss W7CE" <w7ce@curtiss.net>; Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:55:04 -0800; Thanks to all for the very helpful replies. I'm heading up to the cabin this weekend and will do some more experimenting to determine the noise source. Then I can determine the best way to quiet thin; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00106.html (8,299 bytes)
35. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Clay Curtiss W7CE" <w7ce@curtiss.net>; Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:04:56 -0800; I ran some more tests over the weekend. My antenna was a 50' high, 50' long dipole center fed with twin feed through an antenna tuner with an internal 4:1 balun. With the generator running and my Ico; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00109.html (10,019 bytes)
36. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Clay Curtiss W7CE" <w7ce@curtiss.net>; Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:00:28 -0800; I forgot to mention that there was only a few db (less than 1 S-unit) of noise difference between the end-fed wire that I had been using and the balanced dipole. long it check wiring. to tuner. _____; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00110.html (11,106 bytes)
37. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com>; Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:45:59 -0800; Clay, I am curious, when you ran your rig from the battery and still had high noise levels, were you in any way still connected to the generator (say via the AC line safety ground for instance, or an; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00111.html (10,215 bytes)
38. Re: [RFI] Honda Generator RFI (score: 1): Author: "Clay Curtiss W7CE" <w7ce@curtiss.net>; Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 07:59:02 -0800; The rig and antenna tuner were completely disconnected from the house wiring and AC safety ground. The only connection was to the truck battery. No ground of any kind. Clay W7CE _____________________; /archives//html/RFI/2005-03/msg00113.html (9,173 bytes)

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