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1. [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: Jeff Rinehart via RTTY <rtty@contesting.com>; Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:30:18 +0000 (UTC); So if you are fortunate enough to have a waterfall on your fancy radio and can avoid problems by using the waterfall, then that's just fine. But the rest of us (the majority) are still operating S&P; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00261.html (7,117 bytes)
2. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: Bill Turner <dezrat@outlook.com>; Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 11:07:09 -0700; -- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --(may be snipped) REPLY: Why not you ask. Because CQ is the proper thing to send. QRZ is wrong because it means "who is calling me" and should be used only when someone is actual; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00262.html (8,297 bytes)
3. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: Bill Turner <dezrat@outlook.com>; Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 11:16:50 -0700; -- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --(may be snipped) REPLY: "Fortunate" and "fancy" do not really apply here. The radio I am using sells for $2499 which is probably about average for a contest radio. Some are chea; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00263.html (7,230 bytes)
4. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: "Ian White" <gm3sek@ifwtech.co.uk>; Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:50:42 -0500; If you do have a waterfall display and you do check it carefully before calling CQ, the only person who knows that is *yourself*. To anyone else who might be listening, you are indistinguishable from; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00264.html (7,294 bytes)
5. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: Bill Turner <dezrat@outlook.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 02:33:20 -0700; -- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --(may be snipped) REPLY: The important thing is to not transmit on a busy frequency. One can either send QRL? and wait for a response or watch the waterfall long enough to observ; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00265.html (8,198 bytes)
6. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: "Shelby Summerville" <k4ww@twc.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 06:23:53 -0400; Ian, GM3SEK wrote: "So even though I do have a waterfall and I do check it carefully, I will never skip sending "QRL?" The closest "waterfall" I have, is the one next to the dam, where I fish! And I; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00266.html (8,567 bytes)
7. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: Phil Sussman <psussman@pactor.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 06:54:01 -0400; Ian is correct. Technology is a wonderful thing and is a good supplement. But, it is no substitute for common courtesy. From another point of view, many listeners might be observing a waterfall, all; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00267.html (8,856 bytes)
8. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: Jeff Rinehart via RTTY <rtty@contesting.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 15:00:20 +0000 (UTC); Ok - so don't use QRZ - got that - Test is too long - got that too. So, if we don't use CQ and Test is too long, what is the alternative other than just waiting for the Skimmer folks to figure it o; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00268.html (8,786 bytes)
9. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: Jerry Flanders <jeflanders@comcast.net>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:54:19 -0400; Can you tell us more about the 'laws' of one-way-propagation, Phil? I have heard of this for many years but have _never_ been able to find any proof of it - only opinions. Jerry W4UK From another poi; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00269.html (9,005 bytes)
10. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: Bostjan Voncina - S55O <bostjan.voncina@gmail.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 17:58:21 +0200; Why dont we just put a space between the second cq? Cq s55o s55o c q Doesnt look neat but it does solve all the problems mentioned before ;) _______________________________________________ RTTY maili; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00270.html (9,584 bytes)
11. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: Jerry Flanders <jeflanders@comcast.net>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:13:08 -0400; I should have googled it before I asked, Phil. There is a pretty good discussion at: http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/the-mechanics-of-one-way-propagation.379805/ Maybe an effect of polarizati; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00271.html (10,810 bytes)
12. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: "Dave Hachadorian" <k6ll.dave@gmail.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:22:07 -0700; Alex, VE3NEA, is the guy who writes the Skimmer code. He has made two postings in this thread, which, if I understand them correctly, are as follows: If CQ'ing stations want to put the letters CQ at; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00272.html (10,334 bytes)
13. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 13:51:18 -0400; CQ<period> requires *four characters* the same as TEST because of the need to shift to FIGS for the period. If you are going to use "CQ." there is no advantage over TEST - it takes the same 330 ms l; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00274.html (10,969 bytes)
14. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: "Jeff AC0C" <keepwalking188@ac0c.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 13:08:52 -0500; The use of "DE" would be a mess, especially for the people living in DE. 73/jeff/ac0c www.ac0c.com alpha-charlie-zero-charlie If CQ'ing stations want to put the letters CQ at the end of their CQ mess; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00275.html (13,374 bytes)
15. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:25:12 -0400; If used where it belongs, CQ DE, QRZ DE, or TEST DE unambiguously shows the following callsign is *running* on that frequency. 73, ... Joe, W4TV _______________________________________________ RTTY m; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00276.html (9,684 bytes)
16. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: "Sam Leslie - W4PK" <w4pk@arrl.net>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:35:33 -0400; What about CR/LF after the CQ? Sam Leslie w4pk@arrl.net Inch-by-inch life's a cinch, but yard-by-yard it is really hard The use of "DE" would be a mess, especially for the people living in DE. 73/jef; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00277.html (13,411 bytes)
17. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: "Jeff AC0C" <keepwalking188@ac0c.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 13:43:15 -0500; It's not about speed at all, it's about preventing confusion when state is part of the exchange. Especially when you add in some band noise, a QRP power source, poor antennas, QRM and operator fatigu; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00278.html (10,545 bytes)
18. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: "G3YYD" <g3yyd@btinternet.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:43:34 -0500; CRLF is not required just send CR or LF. The software will turn that into a new line. However I dont care if a skimmer makes a false spot when I am running. It may even be beneficial if the guy who c; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00279.html (14,023 bytes)
19. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: "Ed Muns" <ed@w0yk.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:45:02 -0700; This is discouraged because the receiving station may be clicking the call sign just as the line scrolls up on his screen, thereby missing the call sign. Ed W0YK ______________________________ ______; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00280.html (8,491 bytes)
20. Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum (score: 1): Author: "Ed Muns" <ed@w0yk.com>; Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 11:51:15 -0700; False spots are more of a problem for S&P stations who waste time checking out bogus spots, often dupes. Ed W0YK _____________________________________________________________________ David G3YYD CRLF; /archives//html/RTTY/2016-03/msg00281.html (8,920 bytes)

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