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1. [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: W1dxh@aol.com; Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:23:25 EDT; any one running the Alpha 89 with the Orion? Does it need any special cabling? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. 73's, Steve W1dxh **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Fina; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00165.html (7,080 bytes)
2. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Robert Carroll" <w2wg@comcast.net>; Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:38:34 -0400; I am running an Alpha 89 with an Orion 565. Don't use a keying loop with the amp. Just use the relay closure from the Orion to the keying (relay) input on the 89. This is what "Alpha" recommends. 73; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00166.html (7,613 bytes)
3. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: W1dxh@aol.com; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:22:15 EDT; Thanks Bob for the note. When done this way it runs QSK? I will be running RTTY as well and just want to make sure that there are not any issues. I don't have the 89 yet but am looking into the possi; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00175.html (8,611 bytes)
4. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: Kc9cdt@aol.com; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:36:34 EDT; I am usig a 91b... Just the tx in and tx out for qsk and the rf connection.. and of course you have to setup the Orion menu corectly... 73, Lee ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Mon; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00180.html (7,337 bytes)
5. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "STEVEN KLINE" <skline4@verizon.net>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:19:32 -0500; Steve - exactly the same here too. I run an Alpha 8100 with a 565 and 566. Steve - W5JK I am running an Alpha 89 with an Orion 565. Don't use a keying loop with the amp. Just use the relay closure fr; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00191.html (9,105 bytes)
6. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Robert Carroll" <w2wg@comcast.net>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:13:22 -0400; Steve Yep. I forget the exact term in the QSK menu on the Orion but I set it for 0 msec--as fast as it can go. Just to be sure all is well, though, the first few times I would have the Orion set to a; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00193.html (10,483 bytes)
7. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:30:55 -0500; Someone needs to explain how the Alpha then is not "hot switched". Once the key is closed on the Orion, RF is produced. At the same time the keying relay is activated. There is time required for it t; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00196.html (13,201 bytes)
8. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: Kc9cdt@aol.com; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:35:59 EDT; Why not just use the loop like I do... been doing it 2 years now, no issues. But I have a 91b 73, Lee, KC9CDT ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.ao; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00197.html (7,732 bytes)
9. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Robert Carroll" <w2wg@comcast.net>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:02:08 -0400; Bob The 86 and 89 are PIN switched--no relay. You COULD get into trouble if the transceiver put out RF before sending the keying signal that causes the PINs to switch. The PINS switch very quickly. I; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00199.html (14,870 bytes)
10. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:07:44 -0500; Specifically, in the Omni VII, the radio outputs RF before the N.O. actually relay for control of external items closes and settles. I had to deal with this when using it to control my sequencer for; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00200.html (17,001 bytes)
11. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Barry N1EU" <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:11:30 +0000; This makes no sense to me. If a modern rig and amp both support keying loop, I'd definitely want to use it. Works fine on the Alpha 99/Orion. 73, Barry N1EU __________________________________________; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00201.html (8,774 bytes)
12. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:20:18 -0400; Bob, The Alpha circuitry senses when RF is present at the input BNC connector in relation to the arrival of the PPT key line and in/out relay closure -- or in the case of the 86, 89, and 87A amps, t; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00202.html (10,299 bytes)
13. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:25:02 -0400; Perhaps with an older Omni VII F/W version? I believe the amp key line from the Omni VII comes from a HV transistor. What relay needs settling? I am using an Alpha 86 with an Omni VII (no keying loo; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00203.html (9,399 bytes)
14. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Duane Calvin" <ac5aa1@gmail.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:43:01 -0500; The Alpha 89 and 87 are keyed with a different circuit using a PIN diode, where the 91B and 99 use the vacuum relay. My '99 also works FB in QSK by tying it into the keying loop. There are mixed repo; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00204.html (9,192 bytes)
15. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:02:14 -0500; I was able to measure a difference or period of time between the external keying line going low and the RF output of the transceiver. The RF appeared before the keying line went low. I don't recall t; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00205.html (11,544 bytes)
16. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: Kc9cdt@aol.com; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:15:47 EDT; No PIN diodes.. that why I love my 91b Best amp I've ever had... Even if I make a tuneup or bandswitch error no problem. Of course I try not to do those things... but I have once or twice. 73, Lee **; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00206.html (8,192 bytes)
17. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:18:46 -0400; That "Y" cable connection as shown by Alpha from TX OUT requires an amp that is capable of hot-switch sensing. If not, that connection is a key click disaster on CW, and life killer for vacuum relay; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00209.html (8,758 bytes)
18. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:22:43 -0400; line out to RF measures 8 ms. That's enough time for most any QSK amp. My QSK time and Ext. T/R line are always set at 0 for both parameters. Since they sense hot-switching and can compensate for su; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00210.html (9,825 bytes)
19. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Merle Bone" <merlebone@charter.net>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:30:54 -0500; -- RF appearing before the keying relay in the Omni VII "closes and settles" is a bug and should be reported. The Orion spec's RF appears approximately 15 milliseconds after the keying relay closes.; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00211.html (9,194 bytes)
20. Re: [TenTec] Alpha 89 (score: 1): Author: "Marshall Stewart KA5M" <marsh@ka5m.net>; Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:46:17 -0500; With all due respect, you simply do not understand how this works. I'll explain. "Once the key is closed on the Orion, RF is produced." Bob, that simply is not true. With the Ten-Tec Orion II, RF app; /archives//html/TenTec/2008-04/msg00213.html (15,564 bytes)

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