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1. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Stuart Rohre <rohre@arlut.utexas.edu>; Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:18:40 -0500; I will echo the comment about the SWL case being similar to the ham station. It is amazing how much current even modest antennas and feeders can conduct momentarily. If that feeder is robustly ground; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00192.html (9,434 bytes)
2. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>; Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:55:45 -0700; NO! Two huge misconceptions here. First, BY LAW, the chassis of anything connected to the AC line MUST be bonded to the green wire. This has been LAW for MANY years, it is not new. The sole exception; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00194.html (9,414 bytes)
3. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: "Mike Hyder -N4NT-" <Mike_N4NT@charter.net>; Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:20:52 -0400; What is the IQ of the dumbest engineer who wrote them and the IQ of the smartest one on this list? 73, Mike N4NT -- Original Message -- From: "Jim Brown" <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com> To: <tentec@cont; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00195.html (9,046 bytes)
4. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: "CSM$r$ Gary Huber" <glhuber@msn.com>; Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:23:14 -0500; Jim, I agree with your post except for the last paragraph. None of us can know for sure the intelligence and common sense of either the members of the group or those who wrote the NEC or the IEEE sta; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00196.html (10,318 bytes)
5. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Richards <jruing@ameritech.net>; Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:15:53 -0400; I represent that remark. ;-) -- Happy Trails. == Richards / K8JHR == On 9/13/2011 02:55, Jim Brown wrote: ise. , and the engineers who wrote them are a lot smarter than ______________________________; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00197.html (9,083 bytes)
6. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: art davis <n4uc@hotmail.com>; Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:25:05 -0500; Don't know, but there must be an app for that! _______________________________________________ TenTec mailing list TenTec@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00198.html (10,378 bytes)
7. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>; Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:37:59 +0200; Was that a trick question? _______________________________________________ TenTec mailing list TenTec@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00199.html (9,307 bytes)
8. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: art davis <n4uc@hotmail.com>; Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:39:53 -0500; Does this mean that I am in violation of the NEC if I disconnect my coax and throw it out the window without grounding it? How about ladder line where neither wire is a "ground"? . I don't see anywhe; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00200.html (10,802 bytes)
9. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>; Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:57:23 -0700; No, but it makes you look stupid, because you are sticking a lightning attractor high up in the air, but failing to provide a discharge path for it. When you do that, lightning will build up a charge; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00202.html (12,105 bytes)
10. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Richards <jruing@ameritech.net>; Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:58:38 -0400; No... just a safe bet, I think . ;-) -- Happy Trails. == Richards / K8JHR == . _______________________________________________ TenTec mailing list TenTec@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/ma; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00203.html (9,801 bytes)
11. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Richards <jruing@ameritech.net>; Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:12:52 -0400; According to a local authority in my State, YES ! Amazing how the Code reads where wire is somehow either attached to the home, or installed close enough to be considered part of the same. I am not s; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00204.html (12,452 bytes)
12. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Stuart Rohre <rohre@arlut.utexas.edu>; Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:58:08 -0500; I want to clarify my point in saying to AVOID leaving ungrounded feeders around a shack. If they are disconnected and laid out on the operating desk, they might move over and touch a grounded metal c; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00205.html (10,000 bytes)
13. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Richards <jruing@ameritech.net>; Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:15:18 -0400; Thanks, Stuart. A couple of well-intentioned local hams made fun of me when I installed just such a thing. I went ahead with the plan anyway. -- Happy Trails. == Richards / K8JHR == _________________; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00207.html (8,895 bytes)
14. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>; Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:28:32 -0700; Hi Joe, Yes, the AC power line is a common entry point. I agree that a good whole house protector at the main feed is a good thing. I've bought one, but haven't installed it yet. It is critical that; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00218.html (11,605 bytes)
15. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: "Vic Klein" <vhklein@ptd.net>; Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:21:04 -0400; I have had one lightning strike at my home QTH in over 45 years of hamming. Lighting hit an electrical fence next to our main barn (curiously, not the barn nor the tree close nearby, which were both; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00220.html (9,457 bytes)
16. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Joseph or Ruth Patrick <hdmc38@bellsouth.net>; Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:38:06 -0700 (PDT); Good Afternoon Jim Excellent description of the NEC. Recently I had a near lightning strike. My tower and ground system is set up per the nec as a single point ground system. The strike took out 1; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00226.html (10,465 bytes)
17. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Joseph or Ruth Patrick <hdmc38@bellsouth.net>; Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:55:07 -0700 (PDT); Thanks Jim I will definitely have to investigate series mode protection. First the house system and when the budget allows the rest. Thank you again for your time and knowledge. 73 DE K4XZ Joe Patr; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00227.html (12,599 bytes)
18. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Jose F Ballester <jfballester@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:44:23 -0400; Hello all, My earth ground rods are not interconnected and completely impractical to do so. Shack is grounded to a single rod about 25 ft away through 4 gauge wire. Would it be better to just remove; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00229.html (12,796 bytes)
19. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>; Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:20:34 -0700; It will likely be even more impractical to rebuild your house after a lightning strike. Mother Nature doesn't care how difficult it is, she will work her will. Proper bonding is critical. 73, Jim K9Y; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00231.html (9,721 bytes)
20. Re: [TenTec] Earth those feeders (score: 1): Author: Stuart Rohre <rohre@arlut.utexas.edu>; Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:55:03 -0500; Richards, And now you can have peace of mind, while those local hams may one day have pieces of their antennas/ station if they don't ground when not in use. 73, Stuart K5KVH ________________________; /archives//html/TenTec/2011-09/msg00235.html (8,639 bytes)

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