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1. [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:48:57 +0100
The March 2013 issue of QST has another Antenna Tuner test by Joel, W1ZR. This article is a good read because it also describes the ARRL's newest test method for antenna tuners. ONE OF THE BIGGEST MI
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00192.html (8,424 bytes)

2. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: bob barnes <k0wtz@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:59:20 -0800 (PST)
my thoughts on antenna tuners is they will not change an antenna but they will fool your rig into seeing a  load. not matter what that swr if it is high with the tuner the swr will still be high behi
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00202.html (9,995 bytes)

3. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:28:24 +0100
Al, I agree on the caps and the coils. The usefulness of the Johnson design took a big dive in the 1970's when transistorized rigs and then the WARC bands came in. The TX side of its tank circuit was
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00207.html (9,616 bytes)

4. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: Al Gulseth <wb5jnc@centurytel.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:58:06 -0600
Rick, TNX for the spreadsheet - it's an interesting read. What I gleaned in a quick analysis is that while they aren't as convenient, the "old school" link-coupled tuners (in this case, the Johnson M
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00209.html (10,049 bytes)

5. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:15:21 -0600
Agreed, the term "antenna tuner" doesn't really tune the antenna but more correctly matches the load, being a combination of antenna and feedline, to a suitable impedance to which the radio can deliv
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00214.html (13,750 bytes)

6. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:54:06 -0600
I'll take an air-wound inductor over a toroidal inductor any day, space available. The typical loss in an air-wound inductor is IR loss where a toroidal has IR loss plus eddy current loss. I know one
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00219.html (12,452 bytes)

7. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 07:39:07 +0100
Bob, your idea is very sound. But..not always possible. It's one thing when we are talking about a monoband antenna, but it's quite another when we speak of one antenna for working 7 bands. Balance T
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00225.html (12,924 bytes)

8. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: "denton" <denton@oregontrail.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:20:05 -0800
Another advantage of those old link coupled transmatches is their ability to reject out of band signals...they pretty much function as a band pass filter. Rick, TNX for the spreadsheet - it's an inte
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00228.html (12,052 bytes)

9. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:34:28 -0800
That may be too broad a generalization. While I haven't crunched the numbers for specific designs, I recently completed VNWA measurements of all the bandpass filter boxes I could get my hands on for
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00229.html (10,401 bytes)

10. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:43:07 -1000
Hi Bob, Are you using the Johnson Matchbox to go from unbalanced (coax) line to balanced, and then your balanced L net between the feedline and the Johnson? I suspect not, but then what are you using
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00232.html (10,091 bytes)

11. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:48:17 -1000
ANTENNA TUNERS ARE LIKE GOING TO THE DENTIST... Nobody wants to go there, but if you have to, you're really glad they are there. And you really don't want one that is not a good one. ________________
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00233.html (9,383 bytes)

12. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:22:20 +0100
Jim, Is that really comparing apples to apples? In the case of the bandpass filter, you have a (hopefully) 50 Ohm signal passing through the coil. Considering that the bandpass filter is inserted in
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00248.html (12,778 bytes)

13. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:12:08 -0800
Sure. Efficiency is efficiency. Power is dissipated by current flow through resistors. The greater the power applied, the more we must be concerned with it, and the heating produced. The W3NQN design
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00250.html (11,861 bytes)

14. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:53:11 +0000
Pretty high Q values can be achieved if you choose the toroid mix and the winding spec carefully. For example, according to the Micrometals Q Curve Application Information book a T200-6 core wound wi
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00269.html (9,990 bytes)

15. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 22:36:18 +0100
Steve, this thread seems to have taken two paths: 1) "balanced tuners" (which is what it was initially about) and 2) "Toroids vs. air-core coils in general." Focusing on the original topic, balanced
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00276.html (11,483 bytes)

16. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:17:56 +0000
I was responding specifically to the comment from K4TAX: "I'll take an air-wound inductor over a toroidal inductor any day, space available. The typical loss in an air-wound inductor is IR loss where
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00289.html (11,289 bytes)

17. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:28:36 +0100
THANKS STEVE, I KNEW WE WERE ON DIFFERENT PAGES. I ALMOST FULLY AGREE WITH YOU. In fact I do it exactly like you do it (L-Network and external 1:1 balun), but that's because I can't find (and can't a
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00295.html (10,808 bytes)

18. Re: [TenTec] OT: Openwire Balanced Antenna Tuners (QST Test) (score: 1)
Author: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:00:37 +0100
Before we put this thread to bed, one final comment on the ARRL's test methodology. Knowing that an 80m dipole fed with openwire can present an impedance of 2K to 3K Ohms to the matchbox when trying
/archives//html/TenTec/2013-02/msg00296.html (11,585 bytes)


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