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1. [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: Simon Ravni <simon@hamradio.si>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 19:38:56 +0200
Hi! After 41 years of being on the tower it is time to upgrade the antenna. Has anyone made a modification of 40m 4el KLM - Big sticker and replaced linear loading rods with high Q coils? We are awar
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00202.html (6,851 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 13:18:03 -0700
After 41 years of being on the tower it is time to upgrade the antenna. Has anyone made a modification of 40m 4el KLM - Big sticker and replaced linear loading rods with high Q coils? We are aware of
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00204.html (8,369 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: Tom Hellem <tom.hellem@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 18:19:49 -0600
Hello SimonK7QA and I have been playing with the exact thing you are contemplating, except that we are doing it on an old Hy-Gain DIS-72 linear loaded 40 meter beam. We started by winding loading coi
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00205.html (9,123 bytes)

4. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: john@kk9a.com
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:34:37 -0500
Rather than try to duplicate a design that is decades old, I think it would make more sense to redesign the antenna using loading coils. VE6WZ has some loading coil information on: https://www.qsl.ne
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00206.html (8,173 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: "Mike & Becca Krzystyniak" <k9mk@flash.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:52:32 -0500
Greetings All, I was considering a similar approach, by taking the existing design and changing the linear loaded elements into center loaded dipoles. Start with coil placement at LL insulator and tu
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00207.html (9,402 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:54:52 -0700
The main motivation of changing to coils would seem to be the increased Q and decreased loss. But a non-obvious benefit is a broadening of the band width. Any linear loading scheme has the drawback t
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00208.html (10,923 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:19:55 -0700
After 41 years of being on the tower it is time to upgrade the antenna. Has anyone made a modification of 40m 4el KLM - Big sticker and replaced linear loading rods with high Q coils? We are aware of
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00209.html (10,102 bytes)

8. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 15:20:15 -0700
Definitely true. There is some benefit, however, to use two loading coils on either side of center for each element (instead of center coils) because that gives better current distribution along the
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00211.html (9,577 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:05:29 -0700
Definitely true. There is some benefit, however, to use two loading coils on either side of center for each element (instead of center coils) because that gives better current distribution along the
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00212.html (12,173 bytes)

10. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:18:38 -0700
On 4/28/2020 3:20 PM, David Gilbert wrote: There is some benefit, however, to use two loading coils on either side of center for each element (instead of center coils) because that gives better curre
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00213.html (10,836 bytes)

11. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:20:58 -0700
I bought a used EF180C (F12) LL loaded 86' rotary 80m dipole, tossed the LL wires, coils, and relays, modeled it with YagiMech (DXEng) and upgraded it mechanically for 90mph (was maybe 65mph). The LL
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00214.html (12,578 bytes)

12. [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: Brian Beezley <k6sti@att.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:26:23 -0700
I just tried a quick model to see if a single loading coil at the center of a 40m dipole element was feasible. For simplicity I modeled a 46-foot element with constant 0.75" diameter. I compared two
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00215.html (12,480 bytes)

13. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:57:25 -0700
On 4/28/20 4:18 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 4/28/2020 3:20 PM, David Gilbert wrote: There is some benefit, however, to use two loading coils on either side of center for each element (instead of center c
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00216.html (12,114 bytes)

14. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 18:40:13 -0700
Stretching out the current improves the field pattern ... i.e., "gain."  I'm not talking resistive effects.  That's why "extended" dipoles with series capacitors (which makes the length longer for th
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00217.html (13,809 bytes)

15. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 18:50:40 -0700
Whether NEC accurately models the current isn't the point.  You don't need a model to know that if you push the coil out away from the center the portion of the current between the coil and the cente
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00218.html (12,906 bytes)

16. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: <john@kk9a.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 22:07:37 -0400
Can you elaborate on this? John KK9A <snip> Any linear loading scheme has the drawback that the effective loading inductance is directly proportional to frequency; exactly what you don't want. Rick N
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00219.html (10,192 bytes)

17. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: <john@kk9a.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 22:08:10 -0400
This was a very interesting single loading coil discussion with surprising data. Kudos to Jim W6RMK and Brian K6STI! Also the coil sensitivity to moisture is alarming to those of us with OptiBeam and
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00220.html (12,387 bytes)

18. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: Michael Tope <W4EF@dellroy.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 19:08:31 -0700
Yeah, I was expecting the two-coil design to have better VSWR bandwidth. Did you compare the radiation resistance of the two designs? I would expect the one coil design to have a lower radiation resi
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00221.html (14,035 bytes)

19. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 19:39:50 -0700
The inductance of a linear loading wire goes up as the frequency increases.  It acts similarly to a transmission line.  You typically would like the inductance to go down (with increasing frequency),
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00222.html (10,620 bytes)

20. Re: [TowerTalk] 40m 4el KLM - replacing linear loading with coils (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 20:30:38 -0700
Whether NEC accurately models the current isn't the point.  You don't need a model to know that if you push the coil out away from the center the portion of the current between the coil and the cente
/archives//html/Towertalk/2020-04/msg00223.html (13,494 bytes)


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