Has anyone considered taking legal action to force US Tower to document their products? Their attitude on documentation is despicable. Actually, I think they are shooting themselves in the foot. They
I think they are sort of dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. That's the nature of our civil court system these days. I wouldn't want to be a crank-up tower manufacturer, especially in CA. I a
What specific documentation are you looking for, other than the PE drawings they have? Of course, expect their pricing to go up as the amount of documentation they produce go up. ____________________
If a company offers a product without documentation and you decide to buy it... how can they be liable for an action you took? Actually as I think about it...in today's society one is not responsible
Pretty much my thoughts. You know what you are buying. If you want that documentation, then buy a product that has that! _______________________________________________ ______________________________
Author: "Richard M. Gillingham" <rmoodyg@bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 09:38:11 -0400
EXACTLY! Thanks in part to the Trial Lawyers Ass'n. Why would someone want to assume responsibility for one's actions when one may sue the pants off someone else with deeper pockets? Gil, W1RG _____
You are very right JC, although they are probably more damned if they don't. As a manufacturer they are subject to court developed law called "manufacturer's strict liability." Under that law they ar
When I first bought my 72' crankup in 1997, someone at U.S. Tower fed me that line about legal liability being the reason they don't have documentation. Later, when speaking with the president, Bruce
I got most of the documentation I absolutely needed through back channels - underground documentation as it were. Yes, UST provided PE drawings. But what I really needed was a wiring diagram for the
They don't advertise that it is undocumented before you buy it. Sure, you can research the matter, but this is the only company I have ever encountered that does not document a dangerous and highly t
What I did was to buy an extended taper alignment pin from McMasterCarr and pound it into the top hole with a sledge hammer. This aligns all the lower holes to the point where I can get the bolts int
I don't know whether there is more comprehensive information in the UST printed catalog, but on line they give wind-loading figures for no more than 70mph. I live in a county for which the wind speed
In the mid-seventies Cessna, Piper and others simply stopped manufacturing small planes for private use until they finally lobbied the government and stopped all the foolish law suits and their liabi
Author: "Richard M. Gillingham" <rmoodyg@bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 16:23:25 -0400
We're not tralking about engineering data. We're talking about simple instructions such as for replacing cables as required by the manufacturer. UST privides nothing. In fact they don't provide even
And who's to say what "professional" means. It's not like there's some governmental agency licensing tower installers as such(notwithstanding that there's a fair amount of government regulation of on
Right on Jim! Note that the disclaimer of warranties is not valid against a tort claim. It is intended to avoid liability under contract theory for violation of the promises made relating to the prod
Of course, it's just as likely in this situation that the parties concerned could mutually agree that it would be more expensive to go to trial (even though you'd prevail, but perhaps there's no prov
I guess that is because I am an engineer too, Jim :-) 73 Bill W7VP -- Original Message -- From: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net> To: "Bill" <w7vp@comcast.net>; <wc1m@msn.com>; "'JC Smith'" <jc-smith@
Here is an unfortunate example of what can happen when those who can provide technical expertise fail to do so: http://ethics.tamu.edu/ethics/tvtower/tv3.htm As the URL would indicate, it's a page di
Uh, this is not correct on many levels. First of all, although Cessna ceased production of piston-powered aircraft in 1986, Piper aircraft continued to produce them. Or, at least they tried. Many oth