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1. [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: Richard Karlquist <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:06:29 -0700
The topic of adding guys to self supporting towers has been discussed a number of times on this reflector, but I am still not clear on exactly why it supposedly won't work. If I have figured crrectly
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00271.html (8,112 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:58:32 -0700
I can't follow your analysis, so here are some numbers for an HDX589 from my PE analysis: EIA-222-F 85 mph 3 second gust 71 mph fastest mile no ice leg compression 41538# base connection moment 80330
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00273.html (10,793 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: Hector Garcia XE2K <j_hector_garcia@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 15:05:27 -0700 (PDT)
Rick I install a Trylon  T-200  96ft   like 9 years ago for a client who in that time  he was in the need for 2 or maybe 3  at most wireless links using  60 cms dish antennas very light in weight  5
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00274.html (12,217 bytes)

4. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: Steve Maki <lists@oakcom.org>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:21:40 -0400
Richard was talking about self supporting towers, not self supporting crank up towers. Yes, the lift cable is a definite factor in any consideration of adding guys to a crank up. But I've never seen
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00278.html (12,156 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:40:06 -0700
That said, I would bet on the hoist cables as the failure point if guys I should have said that my original query was not aimed at crankup towers. I have no intention of adding guys to my HDX5106. B
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00279.html (8,386 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: "Gary and Arlene Johnson" <qltfnish@omniglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:30:32 -0500
Inquiring Minds Want To Know: Assuming one had a crank up tower made out of three 20 foot sections (nominally 50-55 feet fully extended), why would guying the bottom 20 foot piece of the tower be a b
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00281.html (9,599 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: Steve Dyer <w1srd@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:31:35 -0700
For the simple case, what about the added downward force on the lift cable(s)? 73, Steve W1SRD The topic of adding guys to self supporting towers has been discussed a number of times on this reflecto
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00283.html (9,454 bytes)

8. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: Steve Dyer <w1srd@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:39:01 -0700
Too much crank up stuff on my brain :-). I know N6RK would know better than to guy a crank up.... de W1SRD WHAT lift cable? A self-supporting tower has none. For the simple case, what about the added
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00284.html (9,143 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: <john@kk9a.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:56:13 -0500
This is an age old tower talk question and I have yet to see a definitive answer. As a non-engineer, I think that if properly placed, guys would make for a stronger structure. Self-Supporting towers
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00285.html (10,489 bytes)

10. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:03:32 -0700
Rick, It was my wrong assumption that crank ups were in the question. Guys on the mast by the prior owner of your HDX5106 tower - very interesting! I have a Trylon T200-80 on the ground which is rate
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00288.html (11,830 bytes)

11. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8ri-on-TowerTalk@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 02:28:53 -0400
On 8/12/2013 5:06 PM, Richard Karlquist wrote: The topic of adding guys to self supporting towers has been discussed a number of times on this reflector, but I am still not clear on exactly why it su
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00296.html (12,007 bytes)

12. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 05:37:05 -0700
On 8/12/13 11:28 PM, Roger (K8RI) wrote: On 8/12/2013 5:06 PM, Richard Karlquist wrote: The topic of adding guys to self supporting towers has been discussed a number of times on this reflector, but
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00297.html (10,693 bytes)

13. [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 06:47:09 -0700
The topic of adding guys to self supporting towers has been discussed a number of times on this reflector, but I am still not clear on exactly why it supposedly won't work. If I have figured correctl
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00299.html (12,589 bytes)

14. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: K7LXC@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:01:43 -0400 (EDT)
discussed a number of times on this reflector, but I am still not clear on exactly why it supposedly won't work. If I have figured crrectly, the worse case compressive load on a leg at the bottom of
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00300.html (10,644 bytes)

15. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 07:09:25 -0700
free standing tower, not an issue. How so? In a no wind static case, the guys add down force, some of which will appear on the diagonal cross braces. How much depends on the relative compression stif
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00301.html (12,308 bytes)

16. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: K7LXC@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:12:29 -0400 (EDT)
(nominally 50-55 feet fully extended), why would guying the bottom 20 foot piece of the tower be a bad thing?? It would seem to an under-educated mind that it would strengthen the tower. Methinks th
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00303.html (9,202 bytes)

17. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 07:12:30 -0700
Comments? BUT IMO if the guys have little or no tension on them, then they don't add appreciably to the compression on the legs but some of the wind forces are transferred from the legs to the guy w
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00304.html (10,579 bytes)

18. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: john@kk9a.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:19:38 -0400
I think you are both a little light on the downward pressure from the guy cables. 1/4 phillystran has 600# of pretension. cos(45)*600*3 = 1273# per each set of guys, assuming no wind. There is not ne
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00305.html (10,450 bytes)

19. Re: [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: "Patrick Greenlee" <patrick_g@windstream.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 09:51:53 -0500
I like the slack guy idea but you must be aware that when the wind does blow and the guy(s) take tension that a compressive force is contributed by the guy to the tower. As always the greater the ang
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00309.html (12,597 bytes)

20. [TowerTalk] Adding guys to self supporting towers (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 07:58:01 -0700
How so? In a no wind static case, the guys add down force, some of which will appear on the diagonal cross braces. How much depends on the relative compression stiffness of the brace vs the verticals
/archives//html/Towertalk/2013-08/msg00311.html (12,117 bytes)


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