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1. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:53:03 -0400
"Unlikely" isn't strong enough, it would be impossible. I can buy the cheapest radio shack coax, the type that you can see through the shield to the center dielectric, and it is nearly impossible to
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00434.html (10,341 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:16:54 -0400
Playing in a lab somtimes has little bearing in a real world situation. With a reactive load as would exist with many commercial and home brew antennas leakage is not only possible but very likely.
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00440.html (16,457 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:27:38 -0700
I suspect that a crummy shield would have a larger effect on IR losses than on anything else. But, since the surface area of the shield is so much larger than the center conductor, I would think that
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00443.html (9,891 bytes)

4. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:03:40 -0700
I do not think that's true. Can you give an example and the mechanism by which anything connected at the end of the coax would change the propagation "through" the shield? I can believe currents indu
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00444.html (12,746 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:12:35 -0700
It has been observed (by N6BV and others) that in most coax, losses are primarily IsquaredR below about 500 MHz, and primarily in the dielectric above that frequency. Obviously, that's a broad genera
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00445.html (9,452 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:15:34 -0700
So, for "cable TV" kinds of applications, the extra resistivity from using an aluminum shield probably isn't as big a deal: 75 ohms makes larger diameter ratio, and dielectric losses starting to be a
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00446.html (10,255 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:32:21 -0400
-- Original Message -- From: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net> To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>; "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>; "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>; "Tower Talk List" <towe
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00447.html (14,025 bytes)

8. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:59:21 -0400
How did you measure yours? Or is this just a gut feeling? _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contesting.
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00448.html (10,128 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:09:41 -0700
The fact that it's mismatched isn't going to put any current on the outside (unless it's also unbalanced), but looking at the current on the inside of the braid.. OK.. a dipole in free space cut for
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00449.html (13,120 bytes)

10. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "Dan Zimmerman N3OX" <n3ox@n3ox.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:26:31 -0400
When "cyborg" comes into fashion, I'm going to get a VNA built into my gut so I can calibrate the feelings ;-) Dan _______________________________________________ ___________________________________
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00450.html (9,675 bytes)

11. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:37:10 -0400
<Snip> That all makes sense Carl, and I certainly don't dispute what you saw, but respectfully this is what gets many of us into trouble in understanding how systems work. Without really measuring a
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00451.html (13,360 bytes)

12. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:52:18 -0400
In a RF screen room doing Tempest testing for the CIA. The results convinced me to go hardline at home. I try to leave gut feelings and magic out of the equations ____________________________________
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00452.html (10,635 bytes)

13. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:56:26 -0400
We have to be careful here. The leakage is >60dB but that is in a special standard test fixture at virtually zero spacing to the cable in a closed box. It doesn't mean if we have 1000 watts applied
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00453.html (10,985 bytes)

14. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: Ian White GM3SEK <gm3sek@ifwtech.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:39:33 +0100
Helluva story, Carl! (It must really focus the mind to know that, one way or another, you were going to leave that ship by catapult. ) But Jim made two separate points there: the % shield; and also t
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00457.html (11,883 bytes)

15. [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: Roger Parsons <ve3zi@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:55:11 +0100 (BST)
The leakage from a coaxial cable is only indirectly related to the braid coverage and/or 'hole size'. It does not leak out of the holes like water through a sieve! What happens is that the coaxial mo
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00461.html (9,522 bytes)

16. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:32:14 -0400
I didnt want to belabor the forum with all the details last night and my time was limited. As mentioned we also carried a leakage tester and that was used extensively while also isolating decks and
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00467.html (11,130 bytes)

17. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:42:30 -0400
I never stated that heating was ever a part of this thread, perhaps you are referring to someone else. However I have come close to burning my hand once many years ago while at a friends home trackin
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00468.html (15,195 bytes)

18. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:42:33 -0400
Hi Ian, nice to here from you, its been ages! As far as the ship problem "Not at all" still holds. The network did not use PL259's, they are not even constant impedence. The installer used inferior c
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00469.html (13,885 bytes)

19. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:42:37 -0400
Thank you for that explanation Roger. Since there was no question about the connector integrity and the long lengths laying in cable trays were next to all types of other cables, RF and power, your e
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00470.html (11,371 bytes)

20. Re: [TowerTalk] Balun question shield leakage (score: 1)
Author: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:52:49 -0500
Contrary to as stated by the other poster; "transfer impedance" does NOT remain constant with frequency. The transfer impedance of a cable is how a lightning pulse gets onto the center conductor of a
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-06/msg00471.html (14,143 bytes)


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