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1. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:15:37 -0600
No. Let's take this topic to a sensible conclusion. Unless we do reach a conclusion this topic will come up again with opinion vs experience vs fact vs manufacturers instructions vs guess vs ..... Do
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00302.html (9,007 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:25:42 -0000
The only 'sensible' conclusions to this are the following: 1. do what the manufacturer says for 'standard' installations 2. do what a qualified mechanical engineer who has performed the analysis on t
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00306.html (10,527 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:14:45 -0600
I am willing to give the 'NO Group' a bit more time to present a case before coming to a conclusion. No matter how flat a pancake is - there are still two sides. What do you do in the absence of your
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00309.html (10,209 bytes)

4. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "Jerry K3BZ" <k3bz@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:24:49 -0400
That would be the "sensible" conclusion if one is an engineer or if one believes that only engineers can reach "sensible" conclusions.... and I say that with all due respect. Maybe it's just that I'm
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00310.html (12,986 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:54:21 -0700
I think one approach to the problem is this... 1) Clearly, it's going to be somewhat design specific. The mechanism and critical loads for failure in a free standing tower (bending) and for a guyed t
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00313.html (12,645 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:11:34 -0700
It's the difference between "thinking it's strong enough" and "knowing it's strong enough".. And that difference affects the assessment of the risk you want to accept. The former has more risk than t
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00314.html (12,135 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "Don Moman" <ve6jy@3web.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:25:56 -0000
Count me firmly in the side that approves of guying a self supporting tower. And I can personally attest to VE5RA Doug's experience with guyed Delhi structures - he has been there and done it and the
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00315.html (10,894 bytes)

8. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: Steve Maki <steve@oakcom.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:26:52 -0400
This is the question I'm interested in. Because if it turns out that it's difficult to design even a ridiculous structure that is weakened by guys, some good light will be shed. It seems to me that a
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00316.html (10,652 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "Don Moman" <ve6jy@3web.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:30:31 -0000
Just in cae I confused anyone with my reference to VE5RA, I was living in the past. I should have said VA5DX..... tower. with plus a Weather Stations", and lot's more. Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00317.html (12,174 bytes)

10. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:35:04 -0000
I am good at the ridiculous.. just use the example of a very weak tube, like a cardboard paper towel tube. It will stand upright very nicely by itself... but then add a couple of strong cords pullin
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00319.html (11,586 bytes)

11. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "Chuck Lewis" <clewis@knology.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:48:42 -0700
Side #1: Do it unless there's proof that it's unwise. Side #2: Don't do it unless there's proof that it's OK. Salient examples of this dilemma where side #1 wins: Jan. 28, 1986; Challenger; seven los
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00320.html (12,042 bytes)

12. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:51:17 -0700
(i.e. fail would without. tube. an and push That's the general idea.. but you need to consider the real question is not static loads, but what happens when you put a side load at the top (and all alo
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00321.html (12,743 bytes)

13. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "R. Kevin Stover" <rkstover@mchsi.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:55:01 -0500
This has been an interesting discussion. One question comes to mind though. If you've got the room to properly guy a self supporting tower, meaning 80% of total height, why wouldn't you go ahead and
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00322.html (10,274 bytes)

14. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:21:38 -0000
Building a tower is not philosophy, nor is it science experiment. It is an engineering job. The mechanics and materials are well understood. the tools are readily available to engineers to do very s
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00323.html (11,300 bytes)

15. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: Steve Maki <steve@oakcom.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:41:32 -0400
Of course. But that's not what were on about here. It's a reaction to the oft repeated flat out statement that guying compromises the integrity of a self supporter, without, AFAIK, a single documente
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00325.html (10,828 bytes)

16. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: Steve Maki <steve@oakcom.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:48:57 -0400
tube. without an Err, no. Keep in mind the concept of "sensible guying" it and a push Again, this isn't sensible guying. Steve K8LX _______________________________________________ See: http://www.msc
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00326.html (10,913 bytes)

17. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:47:28 -0600
At one time I had the 4L 40m KLM at 132 feet on a Delhi guyed tower. At another time I had a wind come through here that broke the boom of the KLM but did no damage to the Delhi tower. That's a 42 fo
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00327.html (11,344 bytes)

18. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "Jerry K3BZ" <k3bz@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:52:00 -0400
I bought my Heights aluminum tower used, and refurbished it myself. Some of the leg holes were a little egged out, so I added new bolts in new holes so it's good and sturdy now. I had no specs and wa
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00328.html (13,852 bytes)

19. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:54:22 -0700
This has been an interesting discussion. One question comes to mind though. If you've got the room to properly guy a self supporting tower, meaning 80% of total height, why wouldn't you go ahead and
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00329.html (11,822 bytes)

20. Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporting tower - Yes (score: 1)
Author: "Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:22:15 -0700
One element of this debate is whether or not you can generally say that for any free standing tower structure there exists a specific guy wire configuration that will result in an increase in the ove
/archives//html/Towertalk/2005-04/msg00330.html (12,500 bytes)


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