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21. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 09:37:47 -0700
Yeah.. but if that gap fires, the connector is (temporarily, at least) unusable because of the carbon track. If the goal of the "tower" protection is to reduce hassle having to go an replace/repair r
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00258.html (10,534 bytes)

22. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: "Roy K. Breon" <rbreon@rochester.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:43:31 -0400
I remember seeing several articles in the 50's that used automobile spark plugs as lightning arresters. That was when you could get a plug w/o a built in resistor. Can you do that today? Comments? Ro
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00259.html (11,898 bytes)

23. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 09:46:07 -0700
One of my favorite EE profs liked to use the words "zero length" to emphasize the potential significance of stray inductance, stray capacitance, and stray resistance in any given circuit. SIMPLE circ
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00260.html (9,555 bytes)

24. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 09:51:27 -0700
YES! In ideal coax, there should be NO induced voltage, because the mutual coupling would be ideal. That requires a shield with zero resistance, and a shield that is perfectly uniform. But in real co
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00261.html (9,797 bytes)

25. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:21:37 -0700
You can get non-resistor plugs. I've used them as vacuum HV feedthroughs. As a spark gap, they'd work ok, but a couple pieces of sheet metal might be easier and more compact. Things to think about wi
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00263.html (10,809 bytes)

26. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: Jim Miller <jim@jtmiller.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 20:54:34 -0400
Jim Any construction examples anywhere on the net of the non-sparkplug approach? Sounds interesting. 73 jim ab3cv _______________________________________________ _____________________________________
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00274.html (9,954 bytes)

27. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 19:32:16 -0700
ARRL handbook used to have an example. (look for an openwire line lightning arrestor).. it was just three pieces of sheet metal with angles cut to make a point. ___ _____ ______ You don't need to ove
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00278.html (11,605 bytes)

28. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 00:10:38 -0400
All you need are two pointed conductors. One for the ground side and one for the center of the coax. They can be just that simple, or you can machine a fancy coax connector with adjustable points. Th
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00279.html (11,135 bytes)

29. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:31:00 -0600
Just a minute. Using the words theory and fundamental science principles interchangeably is flawed. There is a big definition difference between these two. Theory can be defined as an assumption or g
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00282.html (9,726 bytes)

30. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:49:52 -0400
The problem here is that most of electronics works with the "laws of physics", or very well proven theories that may be treated as if they are laws. Basic theory is part of the foundation of scientif
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00283.html (10,708 bytes)

31. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:29:51 -0700
or I agree completely with Roger's comments. I would also like to point out that there is a problem with semantics. When I was first getting into ham radio, "the way things worked" that we learned to
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00285.html (11,292 bytes)

32. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:05:57 -0500
Simple spark gaps are not so simple. Temperature, humidity, contamination by dirt etc will all make a difference on what voltage they arc at. Gas tubes are much simpler and more reliable for repeatab
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00286.html (13,217 bytes)

33. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: Ian White GM3SEK <gm3sek@ifwtech.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:20:26 +0100
The word "theory" has two different definitions that are almost completely opposite to each other. The only flaw is if you use the wrong one. The US National Academy of Sciences sums it up very neatl
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00289.html (10,170 bytes)

34. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:46:10 -0700
Sorry to be so blunt, but that's a ridiculous distinction. A theory doesn't need to deviate from fundamental scientific principles at all, although it might indeed involve an assumption of some kind.
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00290.html (9,399 bytes)

35. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: "Perry - K4PWO" <k4pwo@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:47:05 -0500
A hypothesis is a "concept" that becomes theory with valid data. That means theory has the weight of scientific research behind it. I can form the hypothesis that the sky is blue from a giant grating
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00292.html (12,461 bytes)

36. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:58:03 -0700
Indeed, gas tubes are nice for that reason, BUT.. they do cost more than a couple pieces of wire (not much more), and I'm not sure that in this application you need that kind of control. After all, t
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00302.html (15,398 bytes)

37. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 01:10:22 -0400
The problem from humidity comes from condensation and that condensation is far from pure, just check the PH. It'll conduct like crazy and with a .020 to .030" gap it's likely to bridge the gap creati
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00304.html (11,568 bytes)

38. [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:25:41 -0700
Gene, I didn't misread or overlook it at all. The function of an arrestor is to protect sensitive (and expensive) electronics from a strike. ALL IT DOES IS SHORT THE COAX. That remote switch is neith
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00305.html (11,355 bytes)

39. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 06:10:00 -0700
wouldn't that same condensation also bridge the relay contacts? _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contes
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00308.html (11,801 bytes)

40. Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection Question (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:04:00 -0700
It is NOT A BALUN, it is a CHOKE. It will act like any other impedance in series with a discharge path -- cause lightning to look for a lower impedance path to earth, perhaps arcing to that alternate
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-09/msg00311.html (9,227 bytes)


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