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1. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: <john@kk9a.com>; Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 10:59:29 -0500; I am trying to avoid the true north thread however I would verify that they are indeed pointing 45 degrees when you beam Europe. A compass can be inaccurate around a lot of metal or if not level and; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00341.html (8,346 bytes)
2. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>; Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 09:03:49 -0700; You can get skew path on 20 and 40. I was hearing a UX station far better at 90 than directly at him. This happens a lot more than people might think because they point the beam and go. If the antenn; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00342.html (9,330 bytes)
3. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: Richard Solomon <dickw1ksz@gmail.com>; Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 09:23:07 -0700; How about using the Compass App on your SmartPhone ? 73, Dick, W1KSZ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@c; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00343.html (9,066 bytes)
4. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: "StellarCAT" <rxdesign@ssvecnet.com>; Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 12:15:49 -0500; 15? Skewed? That would be quite a rarity. Most of the time signals on all bands are direct with skew propagation being more common on the lower bands and usually only at transition points - i.e. sunr; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00344.html (10,755 bytes)
5. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: "Peter Voelpel" <dj7ww@t-online.de>; Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 21:01:07 +0100; Skewed path operation from Europe to the US is standard nowadays on 10m and 15m, sometimes on 17m as well from my location in northern Germany. During recent years skewed path propagation happened mo; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00347.html (11,548 bytes)
6. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: Martin Sole <hs0zed@gmail.com>; Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 19:37:28 +0300; Beware when using a smartphone app compass, It may direct you to download an app for a virtual owl, this is known to be buggy and may refuse to indicate true north. A further app for a virtual wench; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00350.html (10,803 bytes)
7. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: Richard Solomon <dickw1ksz@gmail.com>; Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 18:21:00 -0700; OK, I'll be a bit more specific. There's an App called GPS Essentials. No Owls, no bugs, has a very accurate compass. 73, Dick, W1KSZ _______________________________________________ _________________; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00352.html (12,789 bytes)
8. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>; Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:43:51 -0800; Thanks Dick. It's also important to realize that accuracy will depend on the sensors in the phone it's running on, as well as surrounding stuff as others have noted. I bought an unlocked Motorola Mot; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00353.html (9,349 bytes)
9. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: "Mike Smith VE9AA" <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>; Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:18:32 -0400; Carol, Not sure how much of a cluttered environment you live in, (suburb, farm land, hill, beach, mountain, whatever)..but this does seem somewhat odd. Why don't you do like I do after installing or; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00355.html (10,540 bytes)
10. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>; Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:09:27 -0500; Look a Northern MI, MI, MN, and mountainous regions. In some areas the declination is ridiculous. If you want the actual declination for an area spend some money and get an aeronautical chart for the; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00357.html (13,712 bytes)
11. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>; Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:15:35 -0500; If I'm not mistaken the smart phones derive the compass from GPS which is true, not magnetic so it wouldn't require a correction. 73, Roger (K8RI) I bought an unlocked Motorola Moto X Pure phone last; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00358.html (10,620 bytes)
12. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>; Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 19:25:52 -0800; Not all -- many phones have sensors for position and orientation separate from GPS. That's how, for example, they know when to rotate the image when you rotate the device. which is true, not magnetic; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00359.html (9,761 bytes)
13. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>; Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 23:02:38 -0500; They can, or I should say, some can, but they may require movement while being held steady which is difficult. Some may require walking in a straight line for as much as 10 feet while you hold the ph; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00360.html (11,727 bytes)
14. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@verizon.net>; Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:23:46 +0000; Compasses in smartphones are like the ones in your car, a magnetic sensor. So they are affected the same way as any other magnetic compass. A gps can only tell you what direction you are moving and c; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00363.html (12,072 bytes)
15. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: Michael Clarson <wv2zow@gmail.com>; Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:32:49 -0500; David's method of using a topo map and sighting an object is the best way. A GPS requires it to move in order to get a bearing, and magnetic compasses have issues. Besides the difference between magn; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00368.html (13,657 bytes)
16. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: "Barry Merrill" <w5gn@mxg.com>; Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:14:28 -0600; My iPhone 7 does NOT need motion for the Compass App. The app immediately rotates to the heading of the phone, while the phone was flat on the desk. Barry, W5GN --Original Message-- From: TowerTalk [; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00373.html (14,698 bytes)
17. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:03:28 -0500; Same with my [old] iPhone 5se. The app Commander Compass is outstanding on the IOS platform ... allows the user to select magnetic or true north and allows overlaying the compass on the users' choice; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00376.html (14,949 bytes)
18. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>; Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:09:58 -0800; iPhones (and Samsung phones, as well as basically all smart phones) have a magnetometer in them. Like all magnetic sensors, they are affected by local conditions.. __________________________________; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00379.html (9,542 bytes)
19. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>; Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:31:24 -0800; That works IF you can see the distant object. My towers are in a dense redwood forest. I established true north from the shadow of the tower at solar noon using online tables by date, on a day when t; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00380.html (9,604 bytes)
20. Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior (score: 1): Author: Guy Olinger <k2av@contesting.com>; Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 17:03:05 -0500; The best way, if you have visible items in satellite maps on Google Earth, is to use the built-in distance and bearing facility. map length to "feet" click the cross-hair over spot 1, then click cros; /archives//html/Towertalk/2017-01/msg00381.html (9,310 bytes)

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