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1. [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: "steve" <kw3a@snip.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:21:23 -0400
Hi TT'ers, A few years ago I bought a used Butternut HF-6V vertical to use as a secondary antenna. it came with the 160 meter kit, which is a large coil and ceramic caps that mounts at the base. I'd
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00428.html (7,532 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: "Dan Zimmerman N3OX" <n3ox@n3ox.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:02:01 -0400
Yeah, it'll work better as an inverted L than a base loaded vertical at that height... but you'll get a fair bit of high angle horizontally polarized radiation from the "top loading wire" ... not ne
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00431.html (8,056 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: John Tait <johnei7ba@eircom.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:34:46 +0100
Hi Steve.. Take a look towards the bottom of this page.. http://www.iol.ie/~bravo/80&40mVertic.htm 73 John EI7BA _______________________________________________ ______________________________________
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00432.html (8,222 bytes)

4. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: "Eric Hilding" <b38@hilding.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:55:30 -0700
My understanding is that use of the 160m loading coil for the HF-6V limits the power to 500w on 160m. Q: What if the 160m coil is left off, and 4 slolping top hat wires were attached to the top of th
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00441.html (7,216 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: "Dan Zimmerman N3OX" <n3ox@n3ox.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:20:33 -0400
I'd believe that. The voltage across the coil will tend to be pretty fierce. 500W seems to give about 7600V across the coil. Full legal limit would be 13kV. Commonly done and generally a decent way t
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00442.html (8,881 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: "Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:12:28 -0700
Straight out gives the highest radiation resistance, but you still get an overall radiation resistance benefit from sloping top-hat wires on a short radiator. I've had good luck with 20 foot long top
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00460.html (10,811 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: "Dan Zimmerman N3OX" <n3ox@n3ox.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:47:40 -0400
"Somewhere I have the modeling data which shows a modest improvement in radiation resistance when the top-hat wire is horizontal (as compared to sloping), but it's not a make or break difference. " I
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00461.html (8,344 bytes)

8. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: "Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:56:11 -0700
Yes, I get similar results, Dan. The 60ft top hat wires sloping down at 30 degrees (relative to horizontal) are only about 1dB better than the base loaded 34' vertical assuming that Q=200 and a groun
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00463.html (10,179 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:12:57 -0700
4nec2 can probably do the optimization. If you can write algebraic equations for the parameters in a NEC description in terms of a few symbols, it can optimize.. For instance, I've done a bunch of mo
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00467.html (11,096 bytes)

10. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: Terry Conboy <n6ry@arrl.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:02:18 -0700
If the top loading wires have to slope down due to a lack of tall supports, it makes sense to use as many wires as possible, so that each one can be shorter (for the same resonant frequency) and thus
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00471.html (8,550 bytes)

11. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: "Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:25:56 -0700
Yeah, that sound like what is needed. Start the optimizer, go have lunch, and then come back to see where to saw the aluminum tubing :-) 73, Mike W4EF................ ________________________________
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00472.html (9,286 bytes)

12. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:12:36 -0700
I agree, Terry. If aesthetics aren't a big issue, I'd put as much surface area of metal up there as I could. In that vein, larger diameter wire is helpful as well. For what it may be worth, I have fo
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00473.html (10,505 bytes)

13. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: "WA3GIN" <wa3gin@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:42:04 -0400
...there is a company in Canada that produces a 50ft helical center loaded antenna for use on ships and for Public Safety AM LP stations. Arlington County OEM, VA installed one of this self-supportin
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00477.html (12,197 bytes)

14. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:26:53 -0700
Something along those lines... I thought about this a bit yesterday. 4nec2 can alter physical parameters (including the value of the loading inductor), but I'm not sure how to set it up to get what y
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00493.html (11,063 bytes)

15. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: "Michael Tope" <W4EF@dellroy.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:10:00 -0700
I think you'll also want to optimize for minimum feedpoint reactance in order to force the loading inductor to a realistic value. Otherwise, depending on how sensitive your excitation source is to mi
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00506.html (12,039 bytes)

16. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:41:40 -0700
4nec2 can do this without too much trouble. One of the options is to optimize for minimum mag(X) (i.e. drive to resonance, irrespective of mag(Z)) OK if the inductor is modeled as a fixed physical le
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00518.html (12,966 bytes)

17. Re: [TowerTalk] Top loading HF-6V for 160 (score: 1)
Author: Terry Conboy <n6ry@arrl.net>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:07:46 -0700
I haven't seen any more follow-up regarding optimization of this configuration, but I'll throw in the results of my modeling in EZNEC (NEC-2 engine). I used the parameters discussed, and varied the l
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-10/msg00848.html (10,951 bytes)


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