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1. [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: Rob Katz <rob.katz@thelegacycenter.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 23:09:11 -0400
Im playing with some wire yagis, and Id like to put relays at the ends of the parasitic wires to switch the director to a reflector (and vice versa). If Im driving the antennas with a full 1.5 KW, wh
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00216.html (7,098 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: "Hardy Landskov" <n7rt@cox.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 06:46:19 -0400
Rob, I would switch in an inductor for a reflector and a capacitor for a director at the CENTER of the element. Use a shorted stub for the reflector and an open wire stub for the director. The voltag
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00217.html (9,260 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:19:21 +0000
I have done a reversible 2 element 80m one. the elements were cut for the driven element length, then I ran a 1/4 wave coax from the feedpoint of each element to a switchbox in the middle. In the swi
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00218.html (9,250 bytes)

4. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 06:24:49 -0700
On 10/16/16 8:09 PM, Rob Katz wrote: Im playing with some wire yagis, and Id like to put relays at the ends of the parasitic wires to switch the director to a reflector (and vice versa). If Im drivin
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00220.html (9,659 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: "Jeff AC0C" <keepwalking188@ac0c.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:49 +0800
I've done element loading and reversing using center switched loads at the end of a coax line just as K1TTT mentions. Works FB. Plus you have to contain the voltage pickup in the control wires headin
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00221.html (10,531 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:12:19 +0000
And don't forget the option of feeding both elements. there are some good designs out there for phased arrays. David Robbins K1TTT e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net AR-Cluster
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00222.html (11,673 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 08:00:52 -0700
On 10/16/16 8:09 PM, Rob Katz wrote: Im playing with some wire yagis, and Id like to put relays at the ends of the parasitic wires to switch the director to a reflector (and vice versa). If Im drivin
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00225.html (10,090 bytes)

8. [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 08:48:03 -0700
The voltage will be "high".. Measuring or modeling the voltage is challenging, but it goes in proportion to the current in the element, which *is* modelable and measurable. Moral of the story: switch
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00226.html (9,431 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: "john@kk9a.com" <john@kk9a.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:44:24 -0400
That is a good question. Years ago I thought of building an 80m vertical with a relay on top to make it a 160m inverted L at my P40A home but I did not know if even a vacuum relay would hold up and I
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00228.html (8,884 bytes)

10. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: Tom Osborne <w7why@frontier.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 10:10:44 -0700
A friend here had a fixed 2-el quad on 80 and used a relay to switch the parasitic element from reflector to director. He burned out some relays before he finally got some high power vacuum relays. T
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00229.html (9,789 bytes)

11. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: "Steve, W3AHL" <w3ahl@att.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:11:43 -0400
Rob, As an upper limit, the voltage on the ends of the DE should be about 3700 volts RMS or 5200 volts peak. This is based upon a 40M wire Yagi EZNEC model with a source power of 1500 watts, feed poi
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00230.html (10,793 bytes)

12. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:47:49 -0700
On 10/17/2016 9:44 AM, john@kk9a.com wrote: That is a good question. Years ago I thought of building an 80m vertical with a relay on top to make it a 160m inverted L at my P40A home but I did not kno
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00232.html (10,543 bytes)

13. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:53:31 -0700
As an upper limit, the voltage on the ends of the DE should be about 3700 volts RMS or 5200 volts peak. This is based upon a 40M wire Yagi EZNEC model with a source power of 1500 watts, feed point vo
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00233.html (13,126 bytes)

14. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:32:39 -0700
I agree with Hardy, Dave, and Jim. My second element is a dipole fed with RG11, and I switch in lengths of coax that are shorted or open in the shack to switch it from CW to SSB (the coax acts as a t
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00236.html (10,181 bytes)

15. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: "Steve, W3AHL" <w3ahl@att.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:01:01 -0400
Jim, Since EZNEC modeled currents are based upon all induced currents from other elements, the estimate should be at least as useful as previous replies of high or so high you dont want to know. The
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00239.html (13,686 bytes)

16. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: Rob Katz <rob.katz@thelegacycenter.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:52:13 -0400
Thank you Hardy and everybody for your responses. Ive built many wire yagis that are loaded in the middle. Im looking to put up a new 3-el on 40m with a rope catenary as the boom, so I want to elimin
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00250.html (13,527 bytes)

17. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:10:30 -0500
Johns old idea seems like the perfect application of something in QST a while back: a pneumatic relay. A puff of air up a non-conducting piece of tubing would trigger the switch: I cant recall if it
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00251.html (11,498 bytes)

18. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:24:09 -0500
I should add that it doesnt change needing a robust switching mechanism to handle the voltage, but at least resolves the issue of conductors to switch a relay being in the vicinity of the antenna. 73
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00252.html (11,842 bytes)

19. Re: [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: "Jeff AC0C" <keepwalking188@ac0c.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 12:04:42 +0800
There is literally no benefit to do the switching at the ends. But there are a lot of reliability issues so why take the hard road when there is no performance increment - and at the same time the he
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00253.html (13,431 bytes)

20. [TowerTalk] Voltage at ends of yogi parasitic elements? (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 22:44:14 -0700
For many years, I have had an insulator with a relay across it at the 60 foot point of my 90 foot vertical. At first I tried vacuum relays, with ratings up to 8000V. All worked for 6 months or so and
/archives//html/Towertalk/2016-10/msg00254.html (10,923 bytes)


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